[GDT] Brouwer's Back. Florida. Calgary. Tonight. 7PM.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I think I know what is needed to get Neal going... He needs to fight Brouwer off the opening draw.

Hear me out on this:

1. Neal has become the new brouwer
2. Brouwer has somehow pulled a space jam and stole Neal's skill when he left town and thus has extended his playing career
3. Neal fights Brouwer
4. ...
5. Neal is back baby!

4 would be that Brouwer destroys Neal in a fight. He's darn good at it, and Neal doesn't fight much - he last fought Jonathan Toews to a draw in 2016.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

For a goalie who has never played more than 48 games in a season and 60 in a year I would worry about him getting more than 50. Smith will start a few more games than just those that are back-to-back.

I think its at the point where Bill has lost confidence in Smith. If that's the case, then Brad needs to be working the phones overtime.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

4 would be that Brouwer destroys Neal in a fight. He's darn good at it, and Neal doesn't fight much - he last fought Jonathan Toews to a draw in 2016.

Don't care if he loses, just needs to get the osmosis of talent back to him. if he has to take a punch in the face so be it.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I think its at the point where Bill has lost confidence in Smith. If that's the case, then Brad needs to be working the phones overtime.

What's calling Steinberg after a game going to do to help Tre?

[Robo]

My god just hearing about the brouwerplay brings back such horrible memories what a terrible 2 years those were

[devo22]

it's my birthday today. Can I have a win, please?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Therein lies the debate.

Hathaway has great PK numbers if you look at the results, but not the how it's happening.

He leads all Calgary penalty killers in goals against per 60 minutes short handed, but is well off the mark in shots against per 60, scoring chances against per 60, and high danger chances against per 60.

Is he a good PK guy or is Rittich making more saves for him than others?

He's their best for playing with edge, but the worst forward on the team for creating offense.

How many goals against has he actually been out for? (tried to find it myself but couldn't). I'm guessing the numbers are small, and one or two more goals would change the results numbers significantly.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Hathaway and Prout skating late. Looks like they’ll be scratches tonight.

Mangiapane and Kylington look like they’ll come in. #Flames

Not sure why Hathaway will sit while Eat Bread plays. I totally get the Shillington switch tho.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Not sure why Hathaway will sit while Eat Bread plays. I totally get the Shillington switch tho.

Peters has been pretty consistent about rotating the bottom-line players in-and-out. I have been really impressed by Hathaway this season, who finally looks like an NHL player for the first time, but I also don't believe he is so good that the team cannot afford to have him sitting every now and then.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Not sure why Hathaway will sit while Eat Bread plays. I totally get the Shillington switch tho.

I think they want some ice time for Mangipane. Maybe Haths a little banged up as well? Who knows. It is a tad confusing. But, Peters seems to know what he is doing so let's see what the bread man has. Not expecting much.

Is he still searching for his first goal too?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think they want some ice time for Mangipane. Maybe Haths a little banged up as well? Who knows. It is a tad confusing. But, Peters seems to know what he is doing so let's see what the bread man has. Not expecting much.

Is he still searching for his first goal too?

17 NHL games. 0 goals. 0 points.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by devo22

it's my birthday today. Can I have a win, please?

Happy Birthday!!

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think they want some ice time for Mangipane. Maybe Haths a little banged up as well? Who knows. It is a tad confusing. But, Peters seems to know what he is doing so let's see what the bread man has. Not expecting much.

Is he still searching for his first goal too?

I have a strong feeling that after this discussion, Eat Bread scores tonight. Or at least gets a point. I'm guessing he scores...

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Nobody should want Smith in tonight against Florida. The team can score, it isn’t a problem. The real problem has been defense. There simply isn’t much team defense. Even good individual defenders look lost in Boughner’s system.

However, put Smith in tonight and the Panthers will likely out score their defensive issues. Let him play against the Kings or another low scoring team.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Nobody should want Smith in tonight against Florida. The team can score, it isn’t a problem. The real problem has been defense. There simply isn’t much team defense. Even good individual defenders look lost in Boughner’s system.

However, put Smith in tonight and the Panthers will likely out score their defensive issues. Let him play against the Kings or another low scoring team.

They sure didn't look like scorers in OT last night.

[CrazyCaper]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Need a montage of his face offs against Buffalo put to sad music.

I was at that game. What a sad state that Gulutzan had to leave him out there. Montage should be done to the Price is Right losers music #SadTrumpet

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They sure didn't look like scorers in OT last night.

11th in GF per game with the 4th best PP. They are struggling right now, but they consistently outshoot and outskate their opponents and put the puck in the net. Last night was the worst effort I’ve seen from them all season. Playing not to lose instead of going for the win because they have good shootout players.

They aren’t very good this year (missing Trocheck hurts quite a bit), but it would be foolish to take them lightly. Plenty of talent on that team.

[FiveSeven]

Who knows how many games BSD can play before he reaches a overworked state. He's never played that many games, but that seems a silly reason to not give him a lot of starts. Only way to find out if he can handle it is by putting him through it.

Crazy to think if we had BSD as the starter and had a competent backup for him we would probably be up in Tampa point territory.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

11th in GF per game with the 4th best PP. They are struggling right now, but they consistently outshoot and outskate their opponents and put the puck in the net. Last night was the worst effort I’ve seen from them all season. Playing not to lose instead of going for the win because they have good shootout players.

They aren’t very good this year (missing Trocheck hurts quite a bit), but it would be foolish to take them lightly. Plenty of talent on that team.

Not taking them lightly. But boy did they look bad (I thought they'd dominate OT).

Outskate and outshoot their opponent? Challenge accepted.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wouldn't say correct you, you're right ... on ice stats are attributable to every player on the ice at that time.

But at the same time when certain things happen more or less to others when you're not on the ice the numbers start to suggest a component to the player.

Hathaway is ranked 1st in terms of results, but Jankowski is second in results, and 1st or 2nd in every measure of what happens when he's on the ice for example (shorthanded)

I guess we know the PK sucked early on (72% the first 12 games) and since the changes to personnel were made, it has been roughly league average (82% over the last 32 games). For me, Hathaway was part of the group that turned it around, so the prospect of him sitting at this point seems a little off over some of the other candidates.

It could simply be a rest or maintenance thing but either way I suspect he'll be right back in the lineup if he actually doesn't dress tonight. I feel he's part of the group who have earned the right to play everyday based on his contributions to the PK thus far alone.