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Old 09-04-2019, 03:44 PM   #321
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It's pretty satisfying watching Boris fail in everything he tries. He had zero new ideas and somehow expected a different result. Hope the rest of them can sort this out and put this disastrous idea behind them.
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There is only so long that the Civil Servants that are having to plan, scrap plans then replan a multitude of scenarios, all at short notice can take this.

All in addition to their BAU activity.
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It's pretty satisfying watching Boris fail in everything he tries. He had zero new ideas and somehow expected a different result. Hope the rest of them can sort this out and put this disastrous idea behind them.


He has started off with an 0 and 3 record.

Just like Glen Gulutzan.

Can someone photoshop Boris throwing a hockey stick?
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I am sure I will get plenty of in-depth analysis when my Economist "arrives" tomorrow, but for those familiar with British procedure... what now? Will BoJo put May's exit deal back on the table (a) and (b) might it pass now because it seems like the best that can be done on short notice? With Parliament in charge and no election, will they get a postponement and have an election in the meantime? Is there a chance they cut the Gordian knot with another referendum?
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Wouldn't the Cdn government fall after this. Are these not consider non-confidence motions? Isn't our system based on theirs?
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Wouldn't the Cdn government fall after this. Are these not consider non-confidence motions? Isn't our system based on theirs?
Well, I would think in a normal situation the PM would certainly resign, but I don't think it is mandatory. I hope somebody here is familiar with parliamentary arcana and can weigh in. I would think they can try to carry on as a minority.
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There is no party or coalition of parties willing or capable of forming a government.

In 2010, when there was a Con/Lib coalition, they passed the fixed term Parliament Act. Meaning that the PM needed to command a 2/3 parliamentary majority to call a snap election.

The opposition has not moved for a vote of no confidence and the PM can’t get the votes he needs to call an election.

Some people might describe this as a cluster####.

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If they refuse to let him hold an election. and they won't let his motion to close parliament before Brexit pass, what are their options?

Cant he just refuse to sign an agreement extending deadline, causing a hard Brexit?
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If they refuse to let him hold an election. and they won't let his motion to close parliament before Brexit pass, what are their options?



Cant he just refuse to sign an agreement extending deadline, causing a hard Brexit?


If he did, he wouldn’t be complying with the law.

But even parliamentary experts don’t seem to understand what comes next.

This is the problem the UK has with relying on convention rather than a legal framework for how parliament and government operates.
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If he did, he wouldn’t be complying with the law.

But even parliamentary experts don’t seem to understand what comes next.

This is the problem the UK has with relying on convention rather than a legal framework for how parliament and government operates.
Is there any chance of the Crown playing an active role, or absolutely not?
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Absolutely not.
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Is there any chance of the Crown playing an active role, or absolutely not?
I was wondering this as well.

It would be amazing if the Queen just called them a bunch of foolish children and called the whole thing off.

Shes Old...she can take one for the team, play the Heel and sort all of this nonsense out!
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I was wondering this as well.

It would be amazing if the Queen just called them a bunch of foolish children and called the whole thing off.

Shes Old...she can take one for the team, play the Heel and sort all of this nonsense out!
The Queen has got to be the most passive aggressive person in the world, bet she'll just wear that blue hat with yellow flowers again.
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The Queen has got to be the most passive aggressive person in the world, bet she'll just wear that blue hat with yellow flowers again.
Boris: "No deal Brexit it is then..."

"No. Now sit down lest I wompeth thee with mine own hat!"
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Who will profit the most off Brexit? It is probably the same ones pulling the strings of the Conservative party BoJo wing. Old video but still very relevant.
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Boris’s brother has now resigned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49594793
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Haha, wow. Torn between family loyalty and national interest. That says a lot.
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family dinners must be pretty awkward.
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Probably the first MP who has resigned so he can spend less time with his family.

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Absolutely not.
Why not?

There is an article in Foreign Policy (see here: https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/29...liament-boris/) discussing why the Queen can't do anything about Brexit, but I truly do not understand the point of having a sovereign who is unwilling or unable to act because doing so would arguably cause a political crisis or the end of the monarchy itself (as the article suggests).

If the monarch only has theoretical power but no real power, then why does anyone pay any attention at all to her (or him)?
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