Player A vs Player B

[canadiancactus]

The numbers below are the first 6 seasons of Player A and Player B. Both are highly skilled, undersized, american wingers. Can you guess who's who?

Player A
GP G A Pts
82 21 51 72
80 25 45 70
82 30 58 88
73 27 46 73
82 26 43 66
47 23 32 55

Total
446GP 152G 275A 424P



Player B
GP G A Pts
80 24 40 64
79 30 48 78
72 18 43 61
80 24 60 84
82 36 63 99
64 16 37 53

Total
457GP 148G 291A 439P

[Vansmack]

Kane and Gaudreau. /thread

[Flames1217]

Including ages changes everything for the stats seen above.

[tvp2003]

Looks good on paper, but total playoff stats during those first six seasons aren't even close:

Player A:
GP G A Pts
74 29 42 71

*2 Stanley Cups, 1 Conn Smythe

Player B:
GP G A Pts
20 4 8 12

#justsayin

[Robbob]

Credit to Johnny since the calendar flipped to 2020. Been a point per game player and is looking like Johnny from 2018.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Including ages changes everything for the stats seen above.

Also when Kane was younger, scoring was lower.

It's like comparing Monahan's first 6 seasons to Iginla's

GP G A PTS
82 21 29 50
70 13 19 32
82 28 23 51
77 29 34 63
77 31 40 71
82 52 44 96
470 174 189 363


GP G A PTS
75 22 12 34
81 31 31 62
81 27 36 63
82 27 31 58
74 31 33 64
78 34 48 82
471 172 191 363

[Samonadreau]

Gaudreauvertime managed to scoop up a different burner account.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Also when Kane was younger, scoring was lower.

It's like comparing Monahan's first 6 seasons to Iginla's

GP G A PTS
82 21 29 50
70 13 19 32
82 28 23 51
77 29 34 63
77 31 40 71
82 52 44 96
470 174 189 363


GP G A PTS
75 22 12 34
81 31 31 62
81 27 36 63
82 27 31 58
74 31 33 64
78 34 48 82
471 172 191 363

Boggles the mind that this fanbase either doesn't know or doesn't care that Monahan did this.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Boggles the mind that this fanbase either doesn't know or doesn't care that Monahan did this.

He needs to do 2 more dangles before scoring.

[pepper24]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Also when Kane was younger, scoring was lower.

It's like comparing Monahan's first 6 seasons to Iginla's

GP G A PTS
82 21 29 50
70 13 19 32
82 28 23 51
77 29 34 63
77 31 40 71
82 52 44 96
470 174 189 363


GP G A PTS
75 22 12 34
81 31 31 62
81 27 36 63
82 27 31 58
74 31 33 64
78 34 48 82
471 172 191 363

The fact that Gaudreau and Monahan are being compared and stats are not far off of 2 future Hall of Famers is a big feat. Flames fans should be really excited about this.

Yes, the 2 don't have Kane's playoff stats but Iginla had zero playoff games at same point as well.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Looks good on paper, but total playoff stats during those first six seasons aren't even close:

Player A:
GP G A Pts
74 29 42 71

*2 Stanley Cups, 1 Conn Smythe

Player B:
GP G A Pts
20 4 8 12

#justsayin

The interesting thing about Stanley Cups is that it takes about 50 people to win one. Smythe is a bit more individual, but you still don't win one of those without at least being on one of the last two teams left standing.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by pepper24

Yes, the 2 don't have Kane's playoff stats but Iginla had zero playoff games at same point as well.

Actually, no, there was never a point where Jarome Iginla had 0 playoff games as an NHLer.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Boggles the mind that this fanbase either doesn't know or doesn't care that Monahan did this.

Jarome was a game breaker who could carry the team on his back. He didn’t have a superstar like Gaudreau feeding him scoring chances.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Jarome was a game breaker who could carry the team on his back. He didn’t have a superstar like Gaudreau feeding him scoring chances.

He wasn't saying Monahan is anywhere near as good as Iginla. BUT how many other players in the same span as Monahan have done the same, including their rookie year (without Gaudreau BTW)?

[The Cobra]

Considering that Kane was 18 during his first season, comparing the players initial seasons is pretty meaningless.

Johnny's stats stand on their own, there is no reason to compare them to Kane's.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Jarome was a game breaker who could carry the team on his back. He didn’t have a superstar like Gaudreau feeding him scoring chances.

Right, because you called Monahan matching Iginla's production shot for shot through the end of Iggy's first 50 goal season when we picked him 6th overall.

It's impressive in any context, it's not like Monahan hasn't ever played in a low-scoring league where Jamie Benn won the Art Ross with 89 points.

That never happened.

[Daniel-J]

Couldn't figure it out without a clue.

[Dajazz]

No doubt Johnny and Monahan are special players, but, as with every other young star they are questioned until they actually win.

O'Reilly & Schenn: Can't win, just can't
Kane: Bad attitude, not a winner
Ovechkin: Will never win, too selfish

And so on.

[Badmotorfinger]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He wasn't saying Monahan is anywhere near as good as Iginla. BUT how many other players in the same span as Monahan have done the same, including their rookie year (without Gaudreau BTW)?

It is a pretty special achievement for Monny. I can't recall who his linemates were in his rookie year though...who was feeding him in the slot before Johnny showed up??

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Badmotorfinger

It is a pretty special achievement for Monny. I can't recall who his linemates were in his rookie year though...who was feeding him in the slot before Johnny showed up??

A real mixed bag including Hudler, Sven, Cammaleri, Stempniak, Colborne, etc. But not one consistent line. On the powerplay he had Backlund as well. he also did it with only about 16 minutes per game.