02-24-2020, 02:19 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Originally Posted by Karl
No he isn't.
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What a convincing argument!
He's an upgrade on every dman we have other than Gio, Brodie, Andersson and Hanifin. As much as I hate to say it because I love the guy, he's better than Kylington too
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02-24-2020, 02:19 PM
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#62
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Forbort is an NHL defenseman. He was Doughty's partner last year.
Davidson (other than with the Oilers) is not an NHL defenseman.
Giving up a 4th to go from Davidson to Forbort sounds about right.
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No it doesn’t. Neither guy is good enough to be in our lineup
Giving a fourth to improve the #8 or #9 guy on your depth chart is classic Brad.
Kylington is better than both. When Gio is back Forbort won’t even play. Completely pointless
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02-24-2020, 02:20 PM
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#63
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by btimbit
What a convincing argument!
He's an upgrade on every dman we have other than Gio, Brodie, Andersson and Hanifin. As much as I hate to say it because I love the guy, he's better than Kylington too
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the only thing he has on Kylington is size and salary
Brad paid a premium to improve the press box
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02-24-2020, 02:21 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
EV DZ Outlet Passes - 10.1 per game (7th in the league)
EV DZ Puck Battles Won - 2.2 per game (15th in the league)
EV DZ Stick Checks - 1.5 per game (7th in the league)
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I would like to see who else is near the top of these lists. To me, these are stats that will necessarily be high because the Kings spend most of the game in their own zone, which results in more DZ events for somebody like Forbort.
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02-24-2020, 02:22 PM
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#65
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Elkyiv
Hopefully SJ will have a 3rd string goalie they'll give us as that future consideration
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I see what you did there.
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02-24-2020, 02:23 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neo45
the only thing he has on Kylington is size and salary
Brad paid a premium to improve the press box
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Conditional 4th
Paid a premium
huh?
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02-24-2020, 02:32 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Show me a D who's hit waivers who is better.
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Luke Schenn. He's marginally better than Forbort.
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02-24-2020, 02:35 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl
Luke Schenn. He's marginally better than Forbort.
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Not even close, Schenn is awful. Substantially worse than Forbert in literally every category.
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02-24-2020, 02:47 PM
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#69
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Lifetime Suspension
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It's pretty clear to me those complaining about Forbort either have no idea who he is, or are one of those people that assume anyone on a bad team sucks.
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02-24-2020, 02:51 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I would like to see who else is near the top of these lists. To me, these are stats that will necessarily be high because the Kings spend most of the game in their own zone, which results in more DZ events for somebody like Forbort.
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The Kings are a 53.99% CF team under McLellan.
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02-24-2020, 02:52 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Originally Posted by Crown Royal
It's pretty clear to me those complaining about Forbort either have no idea who he is, or are one of those people that assume anyone on a bad team sucks.
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It's a lot of the usual suspects complaining. I swear we could have traded a 1st for Crosby and we'd have the usual posters whining about how that pick could have been even better and that Crosby is over 30
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02-24-2020, 02:56 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by neo45
No it doesn’t. Neither guy is good enough to be in our lineup
Giving a fourth to improve the #8 or #9 guy on your depth chart is classic Brad.
Kylington is better than both. When Gio is back Forbort won’t even play. Completely pointless
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If you think Forbort is a #8 or 9 guy, like Davidson is, then I am going to guess that you don't know who Forbort is.
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02-24-2020, 03:01 PM
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#73
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary
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I've always wondered how these Future Considerations trades work. Do they ever have to be closed off eventually?
Just seems weird to me. I'm picturing Treliving calling up SJ a year from now to decide on what the terms are and it seems SJ would just offer up their least valued asset, because they've already got the player and I can't imagine the NHL would overturn a trade a year later if they can't come to an agreement?
I guess it probably only works with players that really have no value at all, but still I wonder about these things.
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02-24-2020, 03:03 PM
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#74
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta
I've always wondered how these Future Considerations trades work. Do they ever have to be closed off eventually?
Just seems weird to me. I'm picturing Treliving calling up SJ a year from now to decide on what the terms are and it seems SJ would just offer up their least valued asset, because they've already got the player and I can't imagine the NHL would overturn a trade a year later if they can't come to an agreement?
I guess it probably only works with players that really have no value at all, but still I wonder about these things.
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"Future considerations" has no long-term ramifications, really. It's just the hockey equivalent of doing a solid.
If anything, this should put to bed the weird speculation from earlier that Treliving has somehow alienated his fellow GMs into all consciously deciding against trading with him
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02-24-2020, 03:04 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Surprised nobody has made the joke yet!
I'm having trouble finding stats on this Future Considerations guy. Is he any good?
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02-24-2020, 03:06 PM
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#76
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by btimbit
Surprised nobody has made the joke yet!
I'm having trouble finding stats on this Future Considerations guy. Is he any good?
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No. Just no.
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02-24-2020, 03:09 PM
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#77
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
"Future considerations" has no long-term ramifications, really. It's just the hockey equivalent of doing a solid.
If anything, this should put to bed the weird speculation from earlier that Treliving has somehow alienated his fellow GMs into all consciously deciding against trading with him
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I swear I've seen these type of deals closed off in the future though.
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02-24-2020, 03:13 PM
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#78
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta
I swear I've seen these type of deals closed off in the future though.
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They sometimes do. When the Flames acquired Keith Seabrook for future considerations from Washington in 2009, they eventually gave the Caps a 2012 7th round pick.
Really depends on what was discussed by the GMs.
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02-24-2020, 03:14 PM
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#79
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Official
Calgary Flames
@NHLFlames
The #Flames have traded defenceman Brandon Davidson to San Jose for future considerations
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02-24-2020, 03:17 PM
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#80
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Treliving on 960 on why they moved Davidson:
They didn't waive him yesterday because they didn't know they were going to acquire 2 d-men today. And because he can't be sent to the AHL, they sent him to SJ so that he could play instead of sit in the press box behind so many bodies.
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