2024 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[Karl]

freaking disaster team. What a cruel joke.

[FireGilbert]

What the hell was that?!? Luck into an inning ending double play and throw it away to score 2. Can Vladdy and IKF share the error?

And another run scoring error lol.

[KelVarnsen]

#### team is ####

[Karl]

This organization flat out stinks.

[bluejays]

On the positive, more than two runs. Perhaps they’ve turned a new leaf?

[browna]

Having offense and a bigger lead earlier, not just 3-1, probably change the dynamics and the bullpen deployment is different for both teams and the Jays likely dont give up the next 8 runs.

[Roof-Daddy]

Yimi apparently dealing with lower back issues now
Green on the IL
Romano and Swanson started the year on the IL, Swanson is still a complete mess
Something seems off with Mayza

I mean....it's becoming a total disaster here

The 1-2-3 hitters are all around .600 OPS (two of them BELOW that)

It's only May 3rd, they're only 3 games below .500, you don't want to push the panic button but holy crap...

[Roof-Daddy]

Bo currently has a negative fWAR, he and Vlad are combined negative fWAR

Incredible

Even if they decide to sell they won't F all for these guys, or Springer lol

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Bo currently has a negative fWAR, he and Vlad are combined negative fWAR

Incredible

Even if they decide to sell they won't F all for these guys, or Springer lol

I disagree. If they were to deal Bo, they'd get a kings ransom. He's the one player almost every team would be in on - either for SS or 2B. This is his first year where he's shown a crack and it's across the full team. Every team would be in on him because his upside is so high, especially for the positions he plays. He's a very valuable guy to have and a few weeks in hasn't changed anything. Vlad, debatable. Springer, probably not much with his back history.

[flamingred89]

I...I just hate this team.

It really won't move the needle much but they have to fire Schneider. He's lost the room. I don't know if it's stemming from taking Berrios out. But what he's preaching the players aren't buying. They really shouldn't be this bad.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

I...I just hate this team.

It really won't move the needle much but they have to fire Schneider. He's lost the room. I don't know if it's stemming from taking Berrios out. But what he's preaching the players aren't buying. They really shouldn't be this bad.

I'm indifferent to Schneider. Montoyo had the same issues. Batting coach should be #1 on my list. #2, Atkins. #3 Schneider. But I think there should be a quick succession to do each. Then with a new GM you start moving players - Bo, Vlad, and the pitchers who have value, to recoup young players. This team isn't good. Said it before the season started, and argued about the nonsense philosophy from the top, and it's come to fruition. That's upper management and numbers guys coming together to push this defence first stuff. Gotta go back to getting hitting first.

[browna]

^
Sure but they need a kick in the pants to salvage this season chances and whatever approach he is taking or saying in the clubhouse isn't cutting it.

Sounds like Schneider got fired up tonight post game, after weeks of taking about patience, so the seat must be getting warmer.

[Samonadreau]

Time to switch up the top of the order. At least to shake things up.

[868904]

I feel like Shatkins just doesn’t understand what Jays fans like. Pitching and defence is great but Jays fans love home runs and high scoring offenses. If the Jays were 13-15 but were top 5 in home runs and runs scored, I think fans wokld be a lot more happier.

No one wants to watch this team lose scoring 2 runs or less every game. This team is terrible to watch. There is nothing entertaining about. I’d rather they lose 10-9 every game.

[flambers]

Jays need to make a trade, find a way to improve the offense. (2 years and counting with that wish)

Crap off season, in terms of addressing anything related to the offense

Pitching is great, however offense is below average

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

I don't know if it's stemming from taking Berrios out.

Ugh. Does anyone remember the ten inning Jack Morris game 7 shutout masterpiece when the Twins won the World Series waaaay back? I miss those days when you rode your starter and had epic pitcher’s duels.

https://www.mlb.com/news/jack-morris...0126%20pitches.