Don Cherry Fired by SN - Poll Added

[Corral]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I'm less impressed with his 'throw Mclean under the bus' act.

I’m sure nothing short of begging for mercy will do for you and others who are so keen to vilify him

[Corral]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Predominantly incoherent as ever in that interview. He was right though that the big cities change and the small towns don't change as quickly, which is a real source of the tensions and divisions we see now.

I’d like to see how coherent you would be under such scrutiny. I think he did well to explain himself and avoid saying things about how he was likely treated by SN

[Snuffleupagus]

I'm amazed at some of the comments in this now very large thread, but I would like to ask where was the outrage when a now 47 year old was caught with stuffed a sock in his pants and painted his face black or brown numerous times?

Party over people I guess

[dangler22]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

I begrudgingly tuned in a bit late and the first thing I heard Tucker say was "fascists" and had to nope out of there, hard.

Tucker Carlson IS a fascist.

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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by ripTDR

Ughh, Facebook has become unbearable. A lot of people who've never watched hockey are all of a sudden Don Cherry supporters, and the sad part is, they are blaming CBC for all this.

If anyone ever has anything good to say they don’t go to Facebook to do it.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Maybe Wyshynski means that Bobby Orr is a hug TextCritic fan? You can't blame him for that

Why not start at the top of the list.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Corral

I’d like to see how coherent you would be under such scrutiny. I think he did well to explain himself and avoid saying things about how he was likely treated by SN

At his age, he has an excuse, but the guy has been incoherent for a decade already. It's not the scrutiny.

Anyways, while he always had entertaining suits and personality, he has been bigoted since well before he became totally incoherent. He still wants to live in a past era when that stuff didn't have public consequences, so he doesn't belong on a national platform where it offends a lot of people. That side of him has been very unCanadian in my eyes since I was a kid and I never liked it. I'm glad people in the big cities have finally moved past accepting that type of speech.

[Dube]

I see a podcast in his future. Called “you people”

[Dube]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Ron has had to literally sit through decades of Don's bs. Decades of it. I can't help but think he just zones out and takes himself to a mental safe space whenever Don rants. He probably gave a thumbs up, nodded and moved on without even knowing what Don had said until watching a replay.

I don’t think Ron is that dim... Strange take. “Had to sit”, didn’t Don pull his pants up twice?

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People would have been more forgiving if Cherry owned up to what he did. He hasn't.

He said maybe one thing that was maybe suspect - "you people" (or to that effect - I can't check right now).. and that's it. I would like to point out that one would have to infer what he meant by that... "you people" could mean any group of people, but one would have to make a jump for it to mean "immigrants" - it could mean "people in big cities" like Toronto based on his context... or it could mean "young people" since they largely don't think of freedom and WWII and the sacrifice those soldier's made for our freedom.

It just wasn't that bad - Cherry himself has said worse, what about all those comments about European players he has said in the past... what changed!?!... it's that some people are now looking to be victimized and they are looking for someone to blame - I simply choose not to be a victim.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

He said maybe one thing that was maybe suspect - "you people" (or to that effect - I can't check right now).. and that's it. I would like to point out that one would have to infer what he meant by that... "you people" could mean any group of people, but one would have to make a jump for it to mean "immigrants" - it could mean "people in big cities" like Toronto based on his context... or it could mean "young people" since they largely don't think of freedom and WWII and the sacrifice those soldier's made for our freedom.

It just wasn't that bad - Cherry himself has said worse, what about all those comments about European players he has said in the past... what changed!?!... it's that some people are now looking to be victimized and they are looking for someone to blame - I simply choose not to be a victim.

"You people love, you that come here, whatever it is, you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey."

So, "you people" that come here from "big cities"?

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Having differing opinions is great.......unless it promotes intolerance, racism, bigotry, etc. I don't have time for that. Tucker is Tucker, we know who he is. Hearing Bobby Orr is a big fan just makes me think less of the man, that's all. So yeah, for me it is kinda sad that a guy I've looked up to for so long is a fan of someone who promotes things I find really terrible.

So what you're doing right now? Or is tolerance only reserved for views you agree with?

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by cannon7

So what you're doing right now? Or is tolerance only reserved for views you agree with?

Intolerance of those who promote hatred. The worst kind of intolerance. Good thing you pointed it out. You really got him!

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Intolerance of those who promote hatred. The worst kind of intolerance. Good thing you pointed it out. You really got him!

Yep, so promoting intolerance. Towards a group you...hate? Or do we love those intolerable bigots? Just trying to get the double speak straight.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by cannon7

So what you're doing right now? Or is tolerance only reserved for views you agree with?

What you pointed out is a false equivalency, the two are very much not the same. Two people agreeing in being intolerant towards something doesn't equal these two people being tolerant. Society is no longer accepting the same stuff it accepted not that long ago. Society is evolving.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Yep, so promoting intolerance. Towards a group you...hate? Or do we love those intolerable bigots? Just trying to get the double speak straight.

Intolerant of Tucker's opinions and actions? Yes. Promoting hatred as he does? Nope. I'm not surprised you can't see the difference.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Yep, so promoting intolerance. Towards a group you...hate? Or do we love those intolerable bigots? Just trying to get the double speak straight.

It’s not intolerant of a group of people. I’m not sure how you continue to participate in this thread without having any idea of what you’re talking about.

It’s your right to, of course, but your points are not effective or sensical and contribute very little. I think you can do a lot better than this (because I’ve seen you have some pretty informed points as a poster before this).

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by cannon7

So what you're doing right now? Or is tolerance only reserved for views you agree with?

You’ve just created a false equivalence. Tolerance isn’t exemplified by allowing Don Cherry to spew his racist views on national television nor is it only accepting perspectives you agree with. Most people who welcome Don Cherry’s firing aren’t saying you can’t have a different perspectives, but some perspectives need to be responded to actively and negatively because it promotes hate and divisiveness.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

So you’re letting your esteem for Bobby Orr be affected by what exactly? Something he said or wrote?

I think less of Tom Brady and Bill for being Trump supporters.

[Resolute 14]

Meanwhile locally, one of the Flames Nation blog writers posted this:

Spoiler!

...and apparently worse (though her Twitter account is now private so can't verify). She got fired and now half the writers at FN have quit in solidarity.

Honestly, she's also a hateful piece of crap in the same vein of what Cherry has said. But I'm not surprised to see the hypocrisy and double standards coming out of the self-important little hockey blogosphere.