Lethbridge Police Officer Kills Injured Deer By Driving Over It Multiple Times

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ped

Um what?'

Oh sure...thats where your mind goes well, let me tell you, that says more about you than it says about me man!

Duct tape is an incredibly versatile tool, you can do almost anything with enough duct tape and imagination.

[Ped]

I get the duct tape.


What about the chloroform?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ped

I get the duct tape.


What about the chloroform?

Some people, and animals, just need to calm down. Sometimes they just need to calm down. Whether they want to or not.

Useful tool. Part of every roadside emergency kit.

[WhiteTiger]

ASIRT has concluded the investigation and released its findings:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

While I feel a bit better about this now, I still can't help but think that there had to be some kind of better option than this, in the very least, optics-wise. But damned if I can think of one.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

ASIRT has concluded the investigation and released its findings:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

While I feel a bit better about this now, I still can't help but think that there had to be some kind of better option than this, in the very least, optics-wise. But damned if I can think of one.

Least surprising outcome ever.

[OMG!WTF!]

Kind of surprised how fast it was. It usually takes a lot longer.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Kind of surprised how fast it was. It usually takes a lot longer.

It was mentioned (I read the 8 page release) that the investigation was time sensitive as some possibly applicable charges had 6 month time limits, so they needed to get the investigation done before the Statute of Limitations would run out on those, if they applied.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Least surprising outcome ever.

Considering Fish and Wildlife and SPCA were privy to the entire investigation and had their input taken into account its safe to say people on the internet with little to no facts about an incident are far too sensitive and vindictive.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

ASIRT has concluded the investigation and released its findings:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

While I feel a bit better about this now, I still can't help but think that there had to be some kind of better option than this, in the very least, optics-wise. But damned if I can think of one.

I cant believe it took 8 pages of BS Government-Speak to say: Innocent.

[nik-]

Sure this guy ran over a deer, stupidly, multiple times, but at least he didn't assault a fish.

[Erick Estrada]

I don't agree with the guy's methods but the deer was going to die as slow and agonizing death. His method while poorly implemented probably saved the deer hours of agony. I think some people have too high of expectations of people in these roles as not all of them are highly intelligent and given there was no established protocol or previous training in how to handle this situation properly so I feel it's a little extreme for people to expect this guy to be harshly disciplined. I get that in this age people internet outrage that people want blood when someone is caught on camera making a mistake but the reality is that you, I and everyone else make mistakes at their jobs from time to time and expecting perfection from people in any role is setting yourself up for disappointment. Our Prime Minister for example has problems putting basic sentences together that make sense so expecting every officer to have the resolve of MacGyver is simply unrealistic.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by nik-

Sure this guy ran over a deer, stupidly, multiple times, but at least he didn't assault a fish.

Motocross club in southern Alberta fined for race that killed threatened trout

https://lethbridgeherald.com/news/pr...eatened-trout/

[Locke]

Originally Posted by nik-

Sure this guy ran over a deer, stupidly, multiple times, but at least he didn't assault a fish.

And no snowbrushes were harmed.

[MoneyGuy]

For those who disagree with how the officer handled this, what do you suggest? A gun was used in another such incident and the bully richocheted off the pavement and hit a man in the head despite bystanders taking cover. I don’t know what he could have done that was better.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

ASIRT has concluded the investigation and released its findings:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

While I feel a bit better about this now, I still can't help but think that there had to be some kind of better option than this, in the very least, optics-wise. But damned if I can think of one.

The blunt conclusion?

The guy is both a coward, and an idiot.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

The blunt conclusion?

The guy is both a coward, and an idiot.

What would the best course of action been then? Since the LPS, ASIRT, F&W and the ASPCA have no idea what they are doing

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

The blunt conclusion?

The guy is both a coward, and an idiot.

Actually i believe you can find the blunt conclusion in the report if you bothered to read it.

The officer carefully considered all his options. The evidence would suggest that
at all times he was acting in good faith trying to make the best decision for the situation, which
included a desire to dispatch the deer and end its suffering, not extend it.

Unexpected or unintended consequences do not necessarily make the original decision
unreasonable. Of the identified remaining options available to the officer to use to euthanize the
deer, without the benefit of hindsight, the police vehicle may have been the best in a pool of bad
choices. Even with the benefit of hindsight, as difficult as it was to watch, it is hard to believe that
the use of the police vehicle was worse than having to watch the officer attempt to beat the deer to
death with a baton or tire iron, or cut the throat or stab to death the deer.

Once someone decided to film this it was gonna go viral either way it ended.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by dan02

once someone decided to film this it was gonna go viral either way it ended.

and that's something important to keep in mind, too. This is a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' sort of situation.

"Heartless bully cop bludgeons poor defenseless injured fawn to death!"

"LPS 'Rambo' cop takes knife to fawns throat while crowd looks on in horror!"

[zztim81]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

and that's something important to keep in mind, too. This is a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' sort of situation.

"Heartless bully cop bludgeons poor defenseless injured fawn to death!"

"LPS 'Rambo' cop takes knife to fawns throat while crowd looks on in horror!"

Throwing a blanket over the deer and taking a knife to the throat of the animal might not have been the most clean situation but would have been the fastest and safest way to put it down. I completely disagree that it would have the same level of public outrage as trying to run it over multiple times to finish it off. I keep a hunting knife in the bottom of the centre consel of my vehicles for this very purpose if i were to hit a deer. And yes, i unfortunately had to do it once to a deer i hit in my work truck.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

What would the best course of action been then? Since the LPS, ASIRT, F&W and the ASPCA have no idea what they are doing

Shoot it.