02-05-2023, 09:14 AM
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damn onions
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The strange part about the Rooney signing to me is moreso the speed and urgency that they signed him with though. Like as if he was Kadri and Kadri, signed in August was Rooney. Like was there a million suitors there? Why Rooney? So weird.
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02-05-2023, 09:16 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
The strange part about the Rooney signing to me is moreso the speed and urgency that they signed him with though. Like as if he was Kadri and Kadri, signed in August was Rooney. Like was there a million suitors there? Why Rooney? So weird.
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I think fans confuse the results with the efforts.
I'm sure Kadri got an offer on day one ... the Flames didn't get the splashy signing and the yes because he was looking at other options.
Could have been 5 offers out that day, and only Rooney took it.
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02-05-2023, 10:40 AM
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#43
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Is there another profession where people call for someone to get fired over 0.2% of the budget not working out as planned?
Maybe politician?
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Milano is just a data point. These data points are cumulative.
As for him making it through waivers... The bottom half GMs that could have used him aren't very good and the top half GMs didn't have a spot for him...because they have done a better job.
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02-05-2023, 10:58 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by BoLevi
Milano is just a data point. These data points are cumulative.
As for him making it through waivers... The bottom half GMs that could have used him aren't very good and the top half GMs didn't have a spot for him...because they have done a better job.
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Nah ... every team in the league signs depth players and makes calls on marginal players like Milano.
You gets some right ... Versteeg comes to mind, Stone of late, Rieder was useful, Talbot.
Then some don't work out.
Only people in a lather around player number 21-23 on an NHL roster are just looking to be upset about something.
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02-05-2023, 11:16 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoLevi
Milano is just a data point. These data points are cumulative.
As for him making it through waivers... The bottom half GMs that could have used him aren't very good and the top half GMs didn't have a spot for him...because they have done a better job.
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Fire every GM in the league because they all passed on him
Also, fire the Caps GM because 3x1.9 is too much
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02-05-2023, 11:37 AM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Fire every GM in the league because they all passed on him
Also, fire the Caps GM because 3x1.9 is too much
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In terms of talent the flames havent signed the most talented front office. The results and the eyeball test should make this obvious
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02-05-2023, 12:33 PM
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#47
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by BoLevi
In terms of talent the flames havent signed the most talented front office. The results and the eyeball test should make this obvious
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That's just silly.
They've won two division titles and a playoff series in the last three years.
Maybe you're just sort of seeing things how you want to see it?
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02-05-2023, 12:51 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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The Rooney signing was bad. But not fireable bad. Like Bingo said, Rooney can easily be buried in the minors until his deal is up. It’s not an anchor contract that hurts the cap of the team
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02-05-2023, 01:01 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I mean, the contract ultimately doesn't hurt them but for a team that likes to demote players to accrue cap space and pinch as many pennies in that respect as they can, they can't be thrilled about it either.
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02-06-2023, 06:36 AM
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Franchise Player
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for some goofy reason i was really hoping it would have worked out for him here in Calgary.
Good for him that he was able to secure a contract with some term.
some guys don't fit in some places for whatever reasons. that seemed to be the case with him here.
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02-06-2023, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Whoever thought Rooney is a competent player should have been fired, period. Especially if it’s a scout.
Milano didn’t impress, so it’s on him. He would have been demoted here anyway
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02-06-2023, 08:01 AM
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#52
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Whoever thought Rooney is a competent player should have been fired, period. Especially if it’s a scout.
Milano didn’t impress, so it’s on him. He would have been demoted here anyway
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Yeah that would be quite the organization you'd be running.
Scout has a feel for a 23rd player on the roster and you get him for about 200K more than a contract you can completely bury in the AHL. Doesn't work out and you fire him.
Imagine the line around the block looking to work for that group going forward!
Or even the next day at the office ... "who has an opinion on who we should sign next summer?"
Crickets.
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02-06-2023, 08:06 AM
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#53
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Milano looked awful here at camp and basically sealed his fate.
Offering a contract to him based off of a decent season the year before would have been a head scratcher when your organization is hounding younger players and their need to elevate in order to make the team.
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02-06-2023, 08:08 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Whoever thought Rooney is a competent player should have been fired, period. Especially if it’s a scout.
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That's mildly histrionic.
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02-06-2023, 08:11 AM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Yeah that would be quite the organization you'd be running.
Scout has a feel for a 23rd player on the roster and you get him for about 200K more than a contract you can completely bury in the AHL. Doesn't work out and you fire him.
Imagine the line around the block looking to work for that group going forward!
Or even the next day at the office ... "who has an opinion on who we should sign next summer?"
Crickets.
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Yes, to me a buriable contract is almost never a mistake, absent the player being a jerk in the room.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
Milano looked awful here at camp and basically sealed his fate.
Offering a contract to him based off of a decent season the year before would have been a head scratcher when your organization is hounding younger players and their need to elevate in order to make the team.
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Especially when the teams he has had decent seasons for didn’t seem to make any attempt to keep him.
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02-06-2023, 08:30 AM
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#56
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Yeah that would be quite the organization you'd be running.
Scout has a feel for a 23rd player on the roster and you get him for about 200K more than a contract you can completely bury in the AHL. Doesn't work out and you fire him.
Imagine the line around the block looking to work for that group going forward!
Or even the next day at the office ... "who has an opinion on who we should sign next summer?"
Crickets.
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It’s not a normal organization. It happened all the times in sports. The Flames pro scouting leave a lot to be desired. Rooney is not the first mistake.
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02-06-2023, 08:33 AM
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#57
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First Line Centre
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Maybe Milano just didn’t get a positive feel / vibe here . Hard to play well when things just don’t feel right and it’s not a good fit for you.
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02-06-2023, 09:28 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
It’s not a normal organization. It happened all the times in sports. The Flames pro scouting leave a lot to be desired. Rooney is not the first mistake.
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But you weren't arguing that they should be fired because of a series of mistakes. You were saying they should be fired for recommending Rooney.
Your words.
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02-06-2023, 09:33 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Weird part is Rooney actually looked pretty good in pre-season and through the first 5 games or so.
Was a better skater than I thought, was playing physical.
But really seemed to fall into Sutter's dog house after a couple of poor defensive plays led to goals against, and after that he looked like a different player with no confidence at all.
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