I heard that he wasn't a spotlight kind of guy. Kind of like the polar opposite of his brother. He later signed with WCW, but even then, only made rare appearances..
Talent-wise, he probably deserved a bigger push if it was something he wanted.
WCW sometimes didn't remember who all worked for them...
WCW sometimes didn't remember who all worked for them...
If you haven't read Death of WCW its a must read book. Especially when they talk about the WCW roster and how many people sat at home and never made appearances but kept cashing their check. Also the Sid Vicious softball priority.
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Also Alexa Bliss is taking some time away from WWE. I've said that she's never been the same since her concussions. And though she's really talented, and was rewarded. She's been somewhat passed by.
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Bad blading, Hayter looks like she broke Bunny's face on a botch and then dropped her on her face again. MJF talking about killing his girlfriend in a car accident.
Saraya and Toni Storm are just a mess.
Its almost like AEW is a parody show on Pro Wrestling.
Its getting really tough to watch unless you have a end of days WCW watching fetish.
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Bad blading, Hayter looks like she broke Bunny's face on a botch and then dropped her on her face again. MJF talking about killing his girlfriend in a car accident.
Saraya and Toni Storm are just a mess.
Its almost like AEW is a parody show on Pro Wrestling.
Its getting really tough to watch unless you have a end of days WCW watching fetish.
Honestly they just need to stop with the mid-tier WWE hires, ROH angles, and old veterans.
Saraya to me was an interesting one because really I thought she was overrated in WWE, and hadn't worked a match in years.
Really does feel like the idea was Banks, Saraya, and Storm would almost do a womens version of the NWO angle with three ex WWE stars invading the AEW women's division.
But without Sasha Banks it all just really fell flat.
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Cap - I do have my issues with AEW now too.... I used to absolutely love it; I still do, but less so. I agree, the booking is all over the place, and aside from Omega and Page, the company is full of middle-tier wrestlers and transients from other organizations. It's the WCW method for sure.
Here's some of my cons right now:
The booking is crap. Too many people getting randomly used and then randomly not, and as you say, the booking seems to be attempting to appease the wrestlers, not the fans. No one is being consistently built up as a superstar, except for perhaps MJF, and even then he's becoming a bit over-the-top much.
The overexposure of the JAS. Aside from Daniel Garcia, I'm just not a fan of shoving this group of mid-level talent down our throats. Also, Jericho isn't a credible threat to the title anymore, and everyone knows it except for Tony Kahn it seems. When Garcia turns on the group, it'll be great. I also think Daddy Magic has some raw awesome talent, but he needs to get in way better physical shape.
Moxley's gimmick has become stale, IMO. He does the same 'bad ass' schtick week in and week out.
Too many managers managing mid-level guys. This feels like 90's WWF, and not in a good way. Also, Ethan Page sucks ass.
Here are my pros right now:
Darby Allin - have grown to love his matches. Dude gives it his all, and because of his gothic 'Sting' connection which he never explains, he is an enigma and is fun to cheer for.
The Acclaimed, but only as long as they keep a) belting out new verbal material, and b) remain credible wrestlers in the ring. The litmus test is if they can eventually get away from the scissor me stuff, because that will get stale over time.
Samoa Joe - He's getting up there in age, but he's still hella fun to watch. Such a unique wrestler. His mic work is still highly, highly underrated IMO.
The stage and ring - I like the look of this way better than WWE's. The black ropes and grey ring mat look great; very B+G NXT'ish, which always made it seem like the focus was on the wrestling and not the entertainment.
Anyways, just some thoughts!
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No and its fair, I mean I watch so little wrestling nowdays and its so hot and cold with both companies.
You look at WWE and they came off what I thought was a pretty strong PPV, but there were in the words of Jim Cornette peaks and valleys. The two rumbles delivered as did Reigns vs Owens. But in the valley Bray and Knight was awful in every ways and the woman's title match really didn't deliver.
With AEW, I'd argue that the booking is really atrociously bad right now. I'd argue that a lot of the wrestlers have really bad and sloppy work rates. They're over reliant on the whole blood gimmick and whoever is producing their TV show seems to capture every single blade, which while hilarious to me just looks dumb.
I had higher hopes for Moxley, but like he was in WWE he's really a one trick pony, and I think his promo quality has slid.
I'm sick of Jericho, I used to be a fan, but Jericho at this time is really nothing more then a vampire or parasite gloaming onto people and sucking their heat from them. I honestly think that Jericho needs a Vince or HHH or a filter guy that will take out his bad ideas.
There are too many factions, and belts and managers, and the roster is way too large.
I think Omega is in charge of the Woman's division which to me is just not good, there are bright points like Hayter, who trust me is going to become a Star and Baker though the Saraya thing just really nuked her.
MJF was way better pursuing the title, but he's not great as the top guy, and that promo last night was far beyond being in bad taste, and that gets you the wrong type of heat. AEW still doesn't understand the difference at times.
Taking the Belt off the Acclaimed for the Gunn Club, just a bizarre booking decision.
Yes, I've always been a fan of Samoa Joe, I still want to know what happened to him when the Ninja's kidnapped him in TNA. But I think they should Lesnar him.
Darby Allan I get the appeal, but he's not really my type of worker to be honest. But that's me.
Danielson is one of the best in ring workers that they've got now that the former Cesario is booked into oblivion, but the booking around him doesn't help.
When you look at the quarter hour breakdowns of most shows, you can see the show start strong, then they announce whats going to happen and they just bleed audience members, especially when the Bucks show up or Jericho shows up or most Woman's matches happen.
I honestly think one of the biggest problems with AEW isn't the workers even though they have far too many of them. Its the egos of Tony, the Bucks and Omega, they're not listening to their audience and their core group of fans is shrinking.
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Agree with the huge roster. I think the ROH brand is also running away from Tony, it's getting watered down and diluting the AEW-exclusive experience. We don't watch AEW to get more ROH.
I'd be down for ROH (or a re-branded promotion at this point) be the spot that is used as the 'NXT' where younger rosters can cut their teeth and build characters (and have some vets spend time putting them over as well). AEW is the main event, and Dynamite is the pinnacle of the show.
And I agree with Muta's assessment, they seem to just be booking based on making the wrestlers happy. At this point it just feels like a big group of friends that get to do stuff on TV every week. Where's the kayfabe mystery? I think only MJF is pulling that off.
The Elite are almost unwatchable at this point. And sadly that includes Omega if he keeps wrestling with them in trios.
Tony is also using this as his personal playground like Manager mode on a WWE video game. It's not following the fans' desire to see solid, well built storylines that have big payoffs. Like, what happened to storylines like Adam Page finally finding his confidence? Or the Redeemer (Miro) going on a monster run because we know he looks like a credible threat to destroy everybody?
Also, please no more Wardlow. He's a big guy but he doesn't have "it".
But for something good, check out the OutRunners. Seems like the next popular tag-team in AEW and total throwback promo!
Fantastic names. Over-the-top schlock. And those names are right out of a low-budget softcore porn hahaha
Good or bad, that promo reminds me of something you'd see on NWA or WCCW back in the day. Hell, even something on WCW Saturday Night (which was a HIGHLY underrated show).
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Cause there's only one way to fix AEW, and that's to hire me CaptainCrunch as the new booker for AEW
So here's how to reset this company or save it
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First of all Tony needs to come out to the ring and call out the Bucks, Omega and Jericho. He needs to state that he tried to build a company that the fans wanted and every worker wanted to work for. And unfortunately due to hi s nativity, he let a bunch of spoiled, entitled brats have all of the power, and they have driven away fans to amuse their buddies. So I Tony Kahn have decided to hire an advisor, and he's going to be here next week to reset AEW, and you guys are all suspended til next week so get out of my ring. Of course the Bucks, and Omega and Jericho don't take it well and beat the crap out of Tony to the boos of the crowd.
Next week, Tony comes out in a cast with black eyes. He calls out the AEW roster and all of them stand around the ring. Then he calls out the Elites and Jericho, who basically laugh in his face, and taunt him. And tony states that the advisor is here.
Spoiler!
Punk comes out and marches to the ring, the crowd goes nuts. Punk tells them its true, he and Tony are tired of a bunch of amateur spoiled VPs, so they are no longer VPs, and they can stay and be talent, or piss off. Of course our villains threaten Punk and Kahn and the whole roster steps into the ring and our villains beat a retreat.
Now we have a proper invasion angle. We also book the villains strong, they're not going away. You put the tag belts on Punk, Omega beats MJF for the title. And you put multiple belts on Jericho.
This goes on for a few weeks with the villains cheating their way to victory. Then Punk calls out the roster to the ring with Tony without the Elite and Jericho.
Punk rages at the ineptitude of the Roster, how they can't deal with 3 idiots and a geriatric. Then Punk turns to Kahn and says, you intentionally stacked the odds against us, screwed us and took us off of TV or sent us home to suck up to your boys. We're tired of working with Amateurs.
Then the WWE players turn of the AEW originals.
So now you have a full blown feud between WWE and AEW with dream matches with good reasons. Meanwhile you have both sides chasing the elite and Jericho, who are playing both sides against each other.
You have one major three way feud for a year. It culminates in a insane match that has all the belts on line with the best of AEW verus WWE versus the Elite.
We can get defections, like Moxley refusing to join the WWE faction, and MJF joining the Elite only to backstab them later. Danielson stay with AEW .
Then we get to the tournament. You put the AEW title back on MJF. You bring back FTR as WWE guys and they win the tag belts. Punk stands victoriously in the ring, and says this was all a plan within a plan by the most brilliant mind in wrestling, and it ain't me.
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The ratings breakdown, it backs up what was said about Danielson's match, and even the MJF match. But people haven't been sticking around for the past bunch of weeks past the first 15 to 30 minutes of the show.
Spoiler!
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I've checked out on AEW for the time being. I still generally like the product, but the ROH and JAS stuff has really turned me off. Add in the fact that it's really difficult to watch when you're a cord-cutter, and I'm just not willing to put in the effort anymore.
You know there's another reason why I'm getting really turned off by AEW. Its becoming like murder porn. You're waiting for the next unsafe worker trying to do something that he has no idea how to do and near murdering someone.
I was watching tonight and Moxley who I actually think is a truly terrible worker and Rush try to do a sling shot outside of the ring. You know one of the easier moves in wrestling where you grab a guys legs when he's down, and role back and use your knees to boost your partner like a slingshot.
Pretty simple move, the victim usually has enough distance from lets say the turnbuckle or a barrier to protect him or herself. Because distance is king.
This by the way is on Mox, this is by the way an intensely stupid and dangerous spot, Whoever approved this spot should be gone. There have been too many of these stupid overdoing it to get my #### in spots in AEW.
I mean Mox is a creative guy, but his work is just so bad.
The serious injuries are going to come, they've been really luck and really close so far. Tony should be looking at this kind of stuff with abject horror. He needs to protect his workers from each other and themselves.
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