09-29-2018, 10:33 AM
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#2541
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Coolest part of those Isles Captain Highliner jerseys was the totally unique rear name and numbers. An equipment managers nightmare.
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09-29-2018, 10:36 AM
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#2542
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by foofighter15
Atlanta's 7 hockey fans would spend the whole game in tears
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At least Lil Jon's YEEEAAAHHHH s would stand out more at the game.
Fyi- when they were in Atlanta, Lil Jon was a big supporter and even ran a blog for NHL.com. #TheMoreYouKnow
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09-29-2018, 10:59 AM
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#2543
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
This is news to me. What did he do? I read a story about Hartford where the owner basically stamped his feet and pulled a runner on the city after he didn't get what he wanted in an arena deal or something?
And I thought Winnipeg didn't have anyone willing to continue operating the Jets in Winnipeg?
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Quebec had great attendance, but an owner that wanted to sell and nobody stepped up. 91.5% capacity their last season.
Winnipeg and Hartford weren't supporting their hockey teams. Jets were bottom four in attendance their last four seasons, and dead last the year before they moved. The Whalers were bottom 2 or 3 their last four seasons.
Bettman gets blamed for the silliest things.
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09-29-2018, 11:38 AM
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#2544
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by getbak
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Pure glory.
There's no reason that logo can't be re-designed to fit the Hurricanes. There is an H in it already. Transform the whale fins into some type of wave/wind graphic or something and its a win IMO.
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09-29-2018, 01:35 PM
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#2545
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Quebec had great attendance, but an owner that wanted to sell and nobody stepped up. 91.5% capacity their last season.
Winnipeg and Hartford weren't supporting their hockey teams. Jets were bottom four in attendance their last four seasons, and dead last the year before they moved. The Whalers were bottom 2 or 3 their last four seasons.
Bettman gets blamed for the silliest things.
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Winnipeg Arena's capacity was officially about 15,000, but practically speaking it was about two-thirds of that. Many, many obstructed seats and the upper decks were precariously steep. 13,000ish was actually very good, all things considered. It had already been announced by the beginning of the '95-'96 that the Jets were going to leave, hence the trash 11,000ish average in the last season. If the Flames announced tomorrow that they were moving to Albuquerque at the end of the season would you care to go to games? Maybe, but many wouldn't...
Much the same story with the Hartford Civic Center: a 10,000-seat arena Frankensteined with an additional 5,000 seats.
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09-29-2018, 01:48 PM
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#2546
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timun
Winnipeg Arena's capacity was officially about 15,000, but practically speaking it was about two-thirds of that. Many, many obstructed seats and the upper decks were precariously steep. 13,000ish was actually very good, all things considered. It had already been announced by the beginning of the '95-'96 that the Jets were going to leave, hence the trash 11,000ish average in the last season. If the Flames announced tomorrow that they were moving to Albuquerque at the end of the season would you care to go to games? Maybe, but many wouldn't...
Much the same story with the Hartford Civic Center: a 10,000-seat arena Frankensteined with an additional 5,000 seats.
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Old buildings.
Owners looking to get out
Nobody local stepping forward.
Bettman not the cause of any of it.
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09-29-2018, 01:55 PM
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#2547
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Coolest part of those Isles Captain Highliner jerseys was the totally unique rear name and numbers. An equipment managers nightmare.
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Those were so unpopular when they came out. It is hard to fathom the change now
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09-30-2018, 12:27 AM
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#2548
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Playfair
Those were so unpopular when they came out. It is hard to fathom the change now
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Kind of like the Horse Head jersey that everyone seems to love now?
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09-30-2018, 01:17 AM
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#2549
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#1 Goaltender
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Long response post... Ignore if you are here for jersey talk
Bettman was just a part of the bigger picture but definately has been a major player in relocations. To see how he plays a role all you have to do is look at how obtuse he's been about keeping a team in Phoenix (and how effecticely he's done it) because of his vision for the league and personal stake in having placed the team there and not wanting to admit failure. Dredging up owners with no connection to the city... Hand holding and quiet negiotiations with the city compared to the hard line he's taken with nenshi here blasting the city in the media.
It's not solely on him at all... Civic govts, willing owners, etc are all big factors. But the bottom line is he prefers large population us cities where not many like hockey but he can get a better tv deal, leverage bigger corporate clout and raw population mass over the smaller poorer cities where everyone likes the sport. And his recommendations to the board, public comments and government relations/lobbying and even digging up new owners are crucial in these scenarios.
Those 3 smaller markets had about 2 years of flux where the attendance was driven down with constant threats and bad teams and then the plug was pulled super quick. There was very little fight from the league because it suited the vision bettman had sold.
His vision for the league has always been to have a footprint in the major US tv markets whether they like hockey or not. I believe he thinks it will grow the game and maximize revenues but personally think its very short term/flawed thinking because I do not believe those markets will ever thrive beyond short term winning periods and I think long term, maintaining the nhls pockets of existing, passionate fan bases is where they should focus.
They are slowly pushing out the grassroots supporters in the hockey belt with their short term goal of maximizing tv and ticket revenue and I think in the long run it will hurt them. In the future I think it will be more of a fight to get passionate people in the building making noise than finding companies to buy ad space. And I don't think the casual US fans they are chasing are very solid bedrock to build on. They are losing a lot of the young generation in traditional hockey areas lately.
Sorry.. Super OT and too long.. Back to jerseys now. Felt compelled to articulate my perspective a little more after my shorter comment being called silly.
Last edited by Matty81; 09-30-2018 at 01:52 AM.
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10-01-2018, 08:49 AM
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#2550
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Looks like that "Isles" wordmark logo was not part of their new thirds...
https://twitter.com/user/status/1046771865660928000
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10-01-2018, 09:10 AM
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#2551
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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They're still in need of a better identity IMO, but this is the best I've seen them roll out with their current identity.
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10-01-2018, 10:11 AM
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#2552
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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When you look at West vs East markets in size it only makes sense to try and make Arizona work. You can't get to 32 teams easily if you lose Phoenix.
Of course he wants TV money, I wouldn't debate that, but the markets that lost their teams had old buildings, shoddy attendance, and a dearth of owners willing to take the existing owners place.
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10-01-2018, 10:54 AM
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#2553
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Damn, the Highliner jersey would have been fun to see in action. The way this summer has shaped up they should have just branded it "Teams to lazily reintroduce Winter Classic and retro jerseys they've already worn in the last five years".
So boring.
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10-09-2018, 12:46 PM
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#2554
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: the dark side of Sesame Street
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Penguins unveiled their new thirds this morning, and they're...very yellow.
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10-09-2018, 12:49 PM
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#2555
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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^
Throwback to the 81 uniforms. I like it.
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10-09-2018, 12:51 PM
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#2556
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I hate the wifebeater design. It looks like a basketball jersey worn over long sleeves.
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10-09-2018, 01:25 PM
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#2557
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I hate the wifebeater design. It looks like a basketball jersey worn over long sleeves.
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In the picture on the left it kinda looks like a hockey jersey worn over equipment.
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10-09-2018, 02:59 PM
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#2558
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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would look less weird with black helmets maybe? But ya the basketball jersey over a long sleeve shirt is hard to unsee.
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10-09-2018, 03:11 PM
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#2559
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Not sure how to feel about those Pens jerseys. Their current home/away are two of the best in the league.
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10-09-2018, 03:24 PM
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#2560
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
In the picture on the left it kinda looks like a hockey jersey worn over equipment.
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It looks like a practice vest worn over a black practice jersey.
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