In the years that we've been talking about an arena this isn't even the first time that CSEC has threatened to take their ball and go home. Don't think this is about any specific mayor.
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In the years that we've been talking about an arena this isn't even the first time that CSEC has threatened to take their ball and go home. Don't think this is about any specific mayor.
For some people, internal bias dictates this must be almost entirely about the mayor. Easy to be angry with and blame someone you didn't like in the first place.
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All this boils down to billionaires being too cheap to build their own ####.
#### it and cancel it unless they pay 100%.
I don't agree with this mindset, an NHL franchise is a privilege to have in a city, not a right. The team and arena add a ton of value to a community and I think 50%/50% or as close to it is fair..
Of course, sure more private money the better but it's short sighted to say they should pay for all of it.
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I knew Gondek was going to be a disaster. It was pretty obvious at the debates. She's more adversarial than Nenshi but not nearly as smart.
I know her reasonably well. She genuinely wants to make a good difference in this city. She is VERY smart and she is not as full of herself as Nenshi, whose main interest in Council seemed to be in a debate itself for the sake of debating most of the time.
Having said that, Gondek's initial actions and initiatives to-date are incredibly dumb for a politician: unpopular, misdirected and unfocused. She will have to learn fast. My guess, we will soon hear some about-face comments and small-scale "discount offerings", which CSEC is likely going to reject anyway.
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I don't agree with this mindset, an NHL franchise is a privilege to have in a city, not a right. The team and arena add a ton of value to a community and I think 50%/50% or as close to it is fair..
Of course, sure more private money the better but it's short sighted to say they should pay for all of it.
I don't know if I've ever seen a study that shows that publicly funded arenas for big pro sports ever works out for the city, the city will always come out the loser in the deals as it will take a long time or never to recoup that money. And the amount of money the city puts into it means they can't put it towards other needed things like education, housing, etc.
These billionaires can afford the arena themselves, they just know they can money from the city and tax payers.
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I don't agree with this mindset, an NHL franchise is a privilege to have in a city, not a right. The team and arena add a ton of value to a community and I think 50%/50% or as close to it is fair..
Of course, sure more private money the better but it's short sighted to say they should pay for all of it.
I can do without privileges that cost us $300 million
As soon as the contract with the city was in place, CSEC should have had the general contractor sending out subcontracts and purchase orders to secure pricing on raw material. PVC, steel, glass, fixtures, even concrete pricing is getting ridiculous and crippling commercial construction projects. I would have to think many millions of dollars would have been saved if these conversations were had months ago.
I wonder what the ROI for overly grandiose libraries looks like
This is an easy target but it is not a correct comparison. Calgary Public Library building is an architectural marvel. This is a public domain building, which serves many purposes; primarily, educational and cultural. Financial ROI is not a measurement to be applied for it.
The new Arena and Event Centre building is in a different category, because its primary purpose is generating revenue and providing public entertainment on a grand scale. Not to say that ROI is the only criteria for its feasibility assessment, but it is one of the primary criteria.
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2) Continued cost escalation experienced since the approved budget of $608.5 million in July 2021. It has since grown to $634 million based upon design development that was completed in October 2021.
All parties have known about the new costs since October. So my guess is they’re only speaking up now because of COVID cancellations and uncertainty going into 2022.
You know what you’re right, make all flames games free to the public! We already paid for the arena, why pay separately for the tickets??
I was advocating for that as a gesture of goodwill by the CSEC: give every Calgary resident a free voucher for any 2 concerts or events they want to attend. It would have my support.
I was advocating for that as a gesture of goodwill by the CSEC: give every Calgary resident a free voucher for any 2 concerts or events they want to attend. It would have my support.
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