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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
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Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade
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16.80% |
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Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better
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30.35% |
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Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project
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28.81% |
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Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back
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Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton
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07-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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#941
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
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I have defended this team all afternoon. However, this will really piss me off if the NMC stays. Treliving should get fired over this if Lucic doesnt score 20-30 goals last season. Comeon.
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07-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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#942
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Franchise Player
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If BT honours the NMC, then he's out to lunch.
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07-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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#943
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by 868904
Hopefully the conditional third can still improve. Hoping he can develop into a second or first!
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Likely tied to how far the oilers go in the playoffs, so bite your tongue.
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07-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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#944
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Lucic can have his NMC still and waive when it comes to the expansion draft, right?
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07-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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#945
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Peterborough, ON
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I'm okay with this. Both players are 3rd/4th line plugs good for 5-10 goals at this point. Salaries are a wash. Flames fans are just pissed because we told ourselves that Neal was going to come back rejuvenated next season and bounce back. The Flames braintrust thinks otherwise.
Lucic will at least stick up for teammates and give the roster a feared presence. Pretty clear the coaches did not like how Neal handled his reduction in ice time last year - the guy has a big ego and was not going to be a good fit in the bottom 6.
The signing of Neal was clearly a big miss for Treliving. But at least he recognized that and has moved on to salvage something out of the situation.
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I’m not sure if you got the memo, but we are going with brain thrust now.
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07-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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#946
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#1 Goaltender
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As per Duhatchek the condition is we get a third round pick if Neal outscores Lucic by 10 or more goals next season.
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07-19-2019, 06:17 PM
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#947
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Lucic can have his NMC still and waive when it comes to the expansion draft, right?
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I would like more of a written guarantee than a simple possibility of this happening
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07-19-2019, 06:17 PM
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#948
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Originally Posted by devo22
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07-19-2019, 06:17 PM
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#949
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Lucic's NMC changes the summer before the expansion draft, but it's unclear how - but an NTC is introduced (he can name 8 teams he'll accept a trade to), so it's likely the NMC for the expansion draft just means that we can't send him to the AHL.
I'm sure Tree wouldn't make this move if he HAD to protect him during expansion.
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Originally Posted by AC
Lucic can have his NMC still and waive when it comes to the expansion draft, right?
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Absolutely yes.
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07-19-2019, 06:17 PM
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#950
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Franchise Player
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This trade went from bad to super bad. Jesus, Treliving.
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07-19-2019, 06:17 PM
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#951
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Originally Posted by Nelson
Okay, if he doesn't waive his NMC to go to Seattle (I actually bet he does...he's from Vancouver), then this would be my protected list (worst case scenario):
Gaudreau
Monahan
Lindholm
Tkachuk
Backlund
Mangiapane
Lucic
Andersson
Hanifin
Valimaki
Rittich
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It's not about hoping Lucic gets selected by Seattle in the expansion draft because they most certainly wouldn't take him. It's about having that protection slot available to use on someone else.
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07-19-2019, 06:18 PM
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#952
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Lucic can have his NMC still and waive when it comes to the expansion draft, right?
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Definitely, I just would have loved to know that now
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07-19-2019, 06:19 PM
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#953
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by neo45
I would like more of a written guarantee than a simple possibility of this happening
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Man, the Flames head office can't be this stupid can they?
Why does Alberta always need one GM being so damn stupid. Now that Chiarelli is gone, Treliving will follow up.
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07-19-2019, 06:19 PM
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#954
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
This whole the Oilers got a guy that can slot into the top 6, sure he'll play top 6 because they have nothing else. But that doesn't mean he'll do anything with it. The guy looked thoroughly disengaged last year and the shoulder tapping Lets go Captain ain't going to change that.
I don't neccessarily like the change, but I'm kind of glad that Neal is gone.
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Me too.
If Neil is gifted top line minutes he will be a gift that keeps on giving. The guy was terrible 5v5.
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07-19-2019, 06:19 PM
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#955
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Lucic will be on LTIR long before the expansion draft ��
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07-19-2019, 06:20 PM
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#956
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
It's not about hoping Lucic gets selected by Seattle in the expansion draft because they most certainly wouldn't take him. It's about having that protection slot available to use on someone else.
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Yes and if he waives his NMC, then they can protect someone instead of him. That list is based on the worst-case scenario where he doesn't waive it.
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07-19-2019, 06:21 PM
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#957
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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I think we just really underestimated just how poorly Neal fit in with the team. The rumours of him and Peters not getting along must have been, if anything, under reported
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07-19-2019, 06:21 PM
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#958
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Can't wait to see how Treliving tries to spin this.
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07-19-2019, 06:21 PM
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#959
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Franchise Player
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I'd be really surprised if Lucic doesn't waive for the expansion draft.
1) He can't possibly think that he is going to get selected, and if he does, there isn't a better place for him and his family than Seattle.
2) He doesn't want to piss off Flames fans. He would get booed mercilessly if the Flames lose a good player and he doesn't play well.
I just don't think this is something that really needs to be stressed over.
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07-19-2019, 06:21 PM
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#960
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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Old boogie
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