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Old 12-21-2021, 01:13 PM   #6121
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For what it's worth, when I was in there earlier it took a few seconds between when I entered in my postal code to when the locations with available appointment showed up. While it was thinking, it said no appointments were available, then populated after those few seconds. If the website is really bogged down it'll take longer so don't click out.
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Old 12-21-2021, 01:18 PM   #6122
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For what it's worth, when I was in there earlier it took a few seconds between when I entered in my postal code to when the locations with available appointment showed up. While it was thinking, it said no appointments were available, then populated after those few seconds. If the website is really bogged down it'll take longer so don't click out.
I've tried waiting for several minutes, but I can see from the browser log that it is erroring out:

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bchAppointmentScheduler.js:4 Error:: Failed call for getFacilities {"status":500,"body":{"exceptionType":"System.Null PointerException","isUserDefinedException":false," message":"Attempt to de-reference a null object","stackTrace":"Class.BCH_SchedulerControlle r.getFacilities: line 68, column 1"},"headers":{}}
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Old 12-21-2021, 01:19 PM   #6123
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And now captcha isn’t loading properly so everything stops there.
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Old 12-21-2021, 01:19 PM   #6124
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I was in, selected a time, and then the whole thing died on me. Back in the find a location and the request times out, so the servers probably can't keep up with the demand.
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Old 12-21-2021, 01:21 PM   #6125
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To be fair to the government, who would have thought there would be a demand for shots??
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:05 PM   #6126
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Could we move the conversation with “Just a guy” to a new thread for those who want to engage? It’s distracting from the Omicron updates and conversation.
Not sure of the etiquette here, but we started this discussion a week ago. Conversely you could start an Omicron discussion
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:13 PM   #6127
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Guess I should've booked my booster before they announced opening to 18+, was planning on going after Christmas in case I got knocked down by the booster.
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:45 PM   #6128
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Guess I should've booked my booster before they announced opening to 18+, was planning on going after Christmas in case I got knocked down by the booster.

Actually turned out to be no problem still to book a vaccination the week after Christmas.
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:48 PM   #6129
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I'm interested to see how this plays out. Canadians were (largely) willing to get vaccinated to stop this, but I do wonder if they're willing to keep going every 3-4 months? It seems like a big ask, particularly if the latest variant is as mild as things suggest.

And yeah, they could just "add this" to the current passports. But truthfully...that starts to get pretty uncomfortable for me.
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I'm interested to see how this plays out. Canadians were (largely) willing to get vaccinated to stop this, but I do wonder if they're willing to keep going every 3-4 months? It seems like a big ask, particularly if the latest variant is as mild as things suggest.

And yeah, they could just "add this" to the current passports. But truthfully...that starts to get pretty uncomfortable for me.
It's not a big ask so much as an amazing opportunity/privilege.

I had pneumonia in 2007-8 and it knocked me down for six months. It was a year before I was back to normal and now I'm super prone to lung infections and bronchitis.

If you've ever had to live with a severe lung infection you'll do whatever you can to avoid it happening again. Masks. Boosters. They are such giant nothings compared to the risk of a severe lung infection that I'd get that shot every day if it made sense.

Not being able to hang out with your friends. Can only work a couple hours at a time (and not at all for weeks). Useless to your family. Walking from your bedroom to the bathroom requires a 2 hour nap after. Life is a write-off if your lungs are fataed, man.
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Old 12-21-2021, 03:02 PM   #6132
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I'm interested to see how this plays out. Canadians were (largely) willing to get vaccinated to stop this, but I do wonder if they're willing to keep going every 3-4 months? It seems like a big ask, particularly if the latest variant is as mild as things suggest.

And yeah, they could just "add this" to the current passports. But truthfully...that starts to get pretty uncomfortable for me.
oMG I GoT To Go GeT aNoThEr LiTTle PriCk So ThaT PeOPlE WoNt ClutTeR HoSpiTals AnD I WoNT DeAL wiTH tHe REperCusSions oF CoVID.

Try having diabetes you get little jabs every single day...
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I'm interested to see how this plays out. Canadians were (largely) willing to get vaccinated to stop this, but I do wonder if they're willing to keep going every 3-4 months? It seems like a big ask, particularly if the latest variant is as mild as things suggest.

And yeah, they could just "add this" to the current passports. But truthfully...that starts to get pretty uncomfortable for me.
These vaccines are not going to prevent Covid infection in the long term, so acting as such and having government freak out and shutter society over positive cases is too heavy handed to be sustainable with close to 80% of our country vaccinated. I know I won't be rushing out for a 4th, 5th or 6th shot every 6 months unless there are hard figures supporting the need to do so. I can certainly get behind an annual fall booster and suspect most people would be the same.

I've still yet to hear of any health system being absolutely crippled by Omicron, in fact there are countries with very poor vaccine uptake already saying the peak has passed and even the UK is starting to report hospitalizations are not falling in line with the rise in positive cases either. Hopefully this turns out to be a huge factor in showing that it's ok to have positive cases if we can rely on an annual booster to largely prevent any severe outcomes that we saw earlier in the pandemic.
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Old 12-21-2021, 03:08 PM   #6134
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Ugghhh...BC just closed all gyms until January 14. Exercise was the true culprit here.
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I had pneumonia in 2007-8 and it knocked me down for six months. It was a year before I was back to normal and now I'm super prone to lung infections and bronchitis.

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and 6 months, isn't too long for pneumonia, my buddy was 12 months + till he was back "normal".
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Old 12-21-2021, 03:09 PM   #6136
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Then you are missing the point.

Your overall number (not your 14 day after vax number) is wrong. You've got it at 1.29 cases/day/M. But that includes both vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

As I said in my previous post, you need to find numbers (which may not exist) that shows the probability of getting covid as an unvaxxed person for each of the 624 days of your time interval. P1 to P624.

The correct risk of getting covid over those 624 days as an unvaxxed person is then:

P1 + (1-P1)P2 + (1-P1)(1-P2)P3 + ... (1-P1)(1-P2)...(1-P623)P624

If you want to use C=cases/day/M, then you need to compute C1 to C624 as:

Ci = (cases among unvaxxed on day i)*(1M/# of unvaxxed on day i)

Then you must figure out how to combine C1 to C624. Is a straight average sufficient?
I was told there is an age bias, which I agreed and produced a table that demonstrated that. The was told there is a vaxxed vs unvaxxed bias and I produced a table that shows that. Anything before Jan 21 are completely unvaxxed. To GGG's point there is a wide variability within a year which makes sense with seasonal dips and waves, which is why I showed the total for the year versus the historical. Agree that there is a more complete risk calc that could be done, but as you say the supporting data is likely not available. I will state once again I am not a statistician, but I do see trends and this one jumped out at me.
As I stated earlier if the increased number is due to shots being given during a peak, then the day zero numbers should show that. Instead they are at or below the historical numbers

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Ugghhh...BC just closed all gyms until January 14. Exercise was the true culprit here.
The boy and I have a tripped planed to see the Flames v Canucks and then the 7's at the end of Feb.

I'm a but concerned.
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Old 12-21-2021, 03:18 PM   #6138
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Is just a guy Dunning Kruger?
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Is there no room for any discussion at this point? Like I bring up a pretty salient point about the ongoing need for boosters, and wonder whether people will continue to get these, and it gets shouted down like I've suggested that people should avoid them and they don't work.
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Shouted down or disagreed with? It seems like most think it would be no big deal.
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