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Old 10-13-2021, 09:22 PM   #1
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Default HELP: Neighbours Cigarette Smoke coming into my living room.

Iím hoping someone has any potential solutions to this problem.

Iíve bought my place about a year and a half ago and have had no issues whatsoever during that time. Unfortunately, recently a new person has moved-in (or old neighbour picked up the habit) and now my living room smells of cigarette smoke pretty much from the second they come home until they leave again.

I have purchased a $300 Air-Purifier that was advertised to help with the smell of cigarette smoke, but I honestly havenít noticed a difference at all.

Does anyone know how I can locate the area that the smoke might be leaking into my unit? Iíve been monitoring my heater and vents, but when I go up an smell them I donít notice anything. It appears to be the worst in the centre of the room.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.


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Old 10-13-2021, 09:31 PM   #2
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Are they smoking near the side of your house where your furnace fresh air intake is? Honestly my first step would be to talk to your neighbours.

It isn't illegal to smoke but most smokers are still reasonable people. The easiest way to find out is to be a good neighbour and ask them to move further away from your house when they go for a puff.
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:33 PM   #3
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Sorry, is it a house, townhouse, or condo? Knowing the type of dwelling and where said neighbour is located in relation to you is required.
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:42 PM   #4
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Sorry, is it a house, townhouse, or condo? Knowing the type of dwelling and where said neighbour is located in relation to you is required.

Itís an apartment complex, but probably closer to the description of a townhouse. There is someone living below me, and also another couple living next door. My entrance is on the main floor, but the living space is on the second and third floor.

There isnít anyone smoking in the common courtyard area or on balconies. Unfortunately, bylaw doesnít allow for people to smoke on the balcony, but it would be much preferred as it currently smells like theyíre smoking in my living room.

There are 2 potential neighbours that could be causing it. One of them I donít know or have seen at all, the other is probably the most unreasonable woman I have ever had to share a wall with.


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Old 10-13-2021, 09:53 PM   #5
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If you want smells to stop coming into your space, you need a positive pressure differential between your space and their space. It doesn't seem right, but putting on your exhaust fans will actually make the smell worse.

Do you know if your building has make up air? If it does the pressure in the hallway will be higher than the units. Leaving the door to the hallway open a crack will help if it does have make up air.
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If you want smells to stop coming into your space, you need a positive pressure differential between your space and their space. It doesn't seem right, but putting on your exhaust fans will actually make the smell worse.

Do you know if your building has make up air? If it does the pressure in the hallway will be higher than the units. Leaving the door to the hallway open a crack will help if it does have make up air.

There is no common indoor space. The only communal space is an outdoor courtyard.

I did however find a few cracks in the steps that definitely have a strong odorÖ

Would that potentially cause it? There does appear to be a bit of a draft coming from the crack.




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Old 10-13-2021, 09:56 PM   #7
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Check the seal on your windows and doors. I’ve had a similar issue and the problem was a poor seal on an old door.

Edit: think I misunderstood. I assumed they were outdoors and it was coming in. Neighbour smoking indoors? You’re hooped. Make the complex move you.
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Check the seal on your windows and doors. Iíve had a similar issue and the problem was a poor seal on an old door.

Edit: think I misunderstood. I assumed they were outdoors and it was coming in. Neighbour smoking indoors? Youíre hooped. Make the complex move you.

Unfortunately Iím the home owner. I was hoping that maybe theyíre just a renter and if the owner learns that their tenant is smoking in there they may step in


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Old 10-13-2021, 10:06 PM   #9
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Try talking to them first. Maybe they’ll be ok with mitigating the leaking smoke. I had a pothead neighbour once who was very apologetic about making my place reek like weed all the time.

If that doesn’t work, lodge complaints with the condo board. Typically smells which disturb other unit owners are not permitted. It may force the other person to cut down on the smell or face fines.

I also find it hard to believe smoking on the balcony is not permitted but smoking indoors is. That seems backward and weird.
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:11 PM   #10
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I was trying to test a spray booth vent to make sure it was working well. I found a small package of incense was actually useful to test it. Might be helpful in your search.

Something like this but on a smaller scale.

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Try talking to them first. Maybe theyíll be ok with mitigating the leaking smoke. I had a pothead neighbour once who was very apologetic about making my place reek like weed all the time.

If that doesnít work, lodge complaints with the condo board. Typically smells which disturb other unit owners are not permitted. It may force the other person to cut down on the smell or face fines.

I also find it hard to believe smoking on the balcony is not permitted but smoking indoors is. That seems backward and weird.

The balcony thing is a Calgary bylaw issue, while the smoking indoors seems to be up to the owner of each unit. I reached out to the condo management company and they pretty much told me Iím SOL.


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Old 10-13-2021, 10:14 PM   #12
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If there's a draft coming through the cracks that means the air pressure where on the other side is higher than the pressure in your unit. Plugging the cracks will probably help, but getting your air pressure higher than their air pressure is the best solution.

What type of heating do you have? If you have your own forced air furnace I would run the fan 100% of the time to pull external air into your unit and raise the pressure.
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In that case you’re down to two options. Sell or commit homicide.
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If there's a draft coming through the cracks that means the air pressure where on the other side is higher than the pressure in your unit. Plugging the cracks will probably help, but getting your air pressure higher than their air pressure is the best solution.

What type of heating do you have? If you have your own forced air furnace I would run the fan 100% of the time to pull external air into your unit and raise the pressure.



Iím not sure how I would control it. I believe this is it.

Edit: Nevermind, I guess this is the ventilation system


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The balcony thing is a Calgary bylaw issue
As far as I understand the smoking bylaw, private residences are excluded. As long as the balcony is designated as a private-use space (even if it's considered common property for other purposes), it is considered part of their private residence.


Here's the law (the provincial law is more-restrictive than the city bylaw in this case): https://www.qp.alberta.ca/1266.cfm?p...=9780779737901

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2(1) Nothing in this Act affects the rights of aboriginal people respecting traditional aboriginal spiritual or cultural practices or ceremonies.

(2) Subject to section 4, this Act does not apply to a building, structure or vehicle, or a part of a building or structure, that is used as a private residence.

The condo bylaws themselves can prohibit smoking on the balconies, but the city/provincial laws don't do it directly. At least that's the explanation I was given when dealing with this for my condo building's bylaws.
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I owned a townhouse when I was in my 20s and my neighbor smoked so much my house smelled like stale cigs all the time.

Sold it and never had a shared wall again
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Offer to buy them a vape, and then you'll get some sweet sweet strawberry pillow clouds!
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I had a similar issue, and asked the neighbor to crack a window in their house. They did (actually they open it comically far) and the issue went away. If it goes below -20, the window closes and we have a problem again, but the rest of the year it's good.

I don't know how he lives in a constant haze of smoke.
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I'm kind of amazed people still smoke in homes and vehicles. Totally kills the value, your only market is other smokers, which are a shrinking demographic. Plus it's super gross.
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