American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[FlamesAddiction]

It's just what he thought people wanted to hear back then.

Even in 2016, he threw a lot of stuff out there just to see what would stick. Then he just ran with what the crowds wanted.

The other thing is that I think he was just really jealous of Obama and everything he has done since Obama came into the public eye was to try and tear him down.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by activeStick

https://twitter.com/user/status/1315003452137721858

I feel like someone should rewrite the Tony Orlando And Dawn song Candida to Covida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WROdwlk9_h8

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by troutman

News media endorsements in the 2020 United States presidential election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_m...ntial_election

Out of curiosity; Why is this a thing? Aren't media outlets supposed to report the news? Why is it common place for them to throw their support behind a candidate? Doesn't that go against what they claim to be?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What happened to the man? He might've been full of himself then too but at least he was coherent and capable of acknowledging that certain left wing ideals held value.

Somebody cut out part of his brain following the Apprentice I think.

He's being steered to divide Americans on wedge issues by a country that he is indebted to?

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Out of curiosity; Why is this a thing? Aren't media outlets supposed to report the news? Why is it common place for them to throw their support behind a candidate? Doesn't that go against what they claim to be?

Almost all news picks a side these days. It’s really a sad time we live in when everything we are fed is one sided.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Almost all news picks a side these days. It’s really a sad time we live in when everything we are fed is one sided.

Huh? The editorial board of newspapers endorsing a candidate/party during an election is a practice that goes back many decades. This isn't a new phenomenon. Also, the Op/Ed section of the paper, where endorsements are published, is a separate from the news section.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Huh? The editorial board of newspapers endorsing a candidate/party during an election is a practice that goes back many decades. This isn't a new phenomenon. Also, the Op/Ed section of the paper, where endorsements are published, is a separate from the news section.

My mistake then. But my point still stands. It’s next to impossible to find articles that relay the facts of a story or situation and let you make your own opinion. Everything reads like an opinion piece these days IMO.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

My mistake then. But my point still stands. It’s next to impossible to find articles that relay the facts of a story or situation and let you make your own opinion. Everything reads like an opinion piece these days IMO.

If you want just straight-up 5W reporting with no in-depth analysis, get your news from a wire service like Reuters, The Associated Press, The Canadian Press, etc. Many major media outlets, including the CBC, The Globe and Mail, The Calgary Herald, and others often re-print wire service articles verbatim.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

My mistake then. But my point still stands. It’s next to impossible to find articles that relay the facts of a story or situation and let you make your own opinion. Everything reads like an opinion piece these days IMO.

"If you don't read the newspaper you're uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you're misinformed."

It's a great quote that is often attributed to Mark Twain. But this article disputes that and can't find the original source:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/1...rmed.%E2%80%9D

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

My mistake then. But my point still stands. It’s next to impossible to find articles that relay the facts of a story or situation and let you make your own opinion. Everything reads like an opinion piece these days IMO.

Here you go.

https://www.reuters.com/

https://apnews.com/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/

There, original fact reporting. It's available whenever you want it without editorialization or commentary. Now stop your bitching.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Out of curiosity; Why is this a thing? Aren't media outlets supposed to report the news? Why is it common place for them to throw their support behind a candidate? Doesn't that go against what they claim to be?

In the US journalistic integrity has fallen by the same wayside as democracy.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by BloodFetish

In the US journalistic integrity has fallen by the same wayside as democracy.

There’s no such thing as journalistic integrity in the US and there never has been.


Of course, that has absolutely nothing to do with endorsing a candidate, which was already explained above.

It’s normal for the editorial team to endorse a candidate but it has little to do with the quality or bias or that paper’s reporting.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Now stop your bitching.

Seems unnecessarily aggressive but ok

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Seems unnecessarily aggressive but ok

No kidding. Wtf.

[ResAlien]

Yeah so much for the tolerant left!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Sliver

No kidding. Wtf.

Evil of fart? What happened to PC LOAD LETTER?

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What happened to the man? He might've been full of himself then too but at least he was coherent and capable of acknowledging that certain left wing ideals held value.

Somebody cut out part of his brain following the Apprentice I think.

This is the issue. I believed this guy was a phoney since before this interview ran. He's been a fraud his whole life. It used to be I was the crazy guy telling folks about it when he got the apprentice gig...now everyone knows. His presidency has actually been really good for my position.

He should've been jailed for robbing investors years ago. Maybe it happens now.

[Flamenspiel]

I like Politico and 538.

[driveway]

So, here's a Graduate Thesis a woman named Wonda Mock wrote back in the 90s about the history of the American Press and American Politics.

Some quotes from the first chapter:

The partisan press and American journalism began during the second half of the 17th century with individuals who, for personal and/or religious reasons, established newspapers to inform the public, promote free expression and advance their own views. The first three newspapers were established at the colonies’ largest town, Boston, in the Puritan commonwealth of Massachusetts. The 1689 broadside, The Present State o f the New-English Affairs, published by Samuel Green, Jr. "to prevent false reports" heralded the first American newspaper attempt. Other news bulletins appeared later in that year until the government suppressed them as "tending to the disturbance of the peace." But the destiny of the press and its most important functions of collecting and disseminating information had begun.

In 1721 James Franklin, older brother of Ben, published a lively Boston paper called the New England Couraru (messenger), developing the editorial and the editorial crusade. Franklin’s editorials served as a means of discussion while his editorial crusades involved planned campaigns as a means to produce results. In contempt of both temporal and spiritual authority, editorials centered on current issues and the weaknesses and characteristics of people.

William Bradford founded the New York Gazette in 1725. As New York’s official Tory printer, Bradford never challenged the jurisdiction, rights, actions or decisions of the government. In supporting the administration, he neglected reporting on or slanted his reporting against the merchants and commercial businessmen of the Whig class. Financed by protesting Whig colonists the New York Weekly Journal, printed by John Peter Zenger in 1733, became the second newspaper in the New York Colony and the first political party dominated newspaper established in America.

Both the National Gazette and the Gazette o f the United States had wide circulations. (Alexander) Hamilton’s paper was subsidized by a lucrative printing award and wealthy patrons while the National Gazette died of financial malnutrition after Jefferson’s retirement from the cabinet. However, another Philadelphia paper, the Aurora, filled the vacuum as a prominent Republican party vehicle. Aurora editor Benjamin Franklin Bache, a grandson of Benjamin Franklin, abused Washington more than Freneau. After Washington’s Farewell Address the Aurora said:

If ever a nation was debauched by a man, the American
nation has been debauched by Washington. If ever a nation
has suffered from the improper influence of a man, the
American nation has suffered from the influence of
Washington. If ever a nation was deceived by a man, the
American nation has been deceived by Washington. Let his
conduct then be an example to future ages. Let it serve to be
a warning that no man may be an idol.

[Fuzz]

Lindsay Graham, chairmen of the confirmation hearings, is using his position as chair to run a campaign speech, and just finished saying how much he wants her to get the position, and basically slobbered all over her.

Is the chair supposed to be neutral? What a piece of garbage.