Shaw Transfer Limit

[Antithesis]

I'm wondering if anyone can confirm for me the upload/download limits with the 'regular' Shaw high speed service. I see in the TOS it says a total of 60 GB including uploading/downloading. Does this pertain to torrenting? If not, what are the limits in this area?

Thanks.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I'm wondering if anyone can confirm for me the upload/download limits with the 'regular' Shaw high speed service. I see in the TOS it says a total of 60 GB including uploading/downloading. Does this pertain to torrenting? If not, what are the limits in this area?

Thanks.

Yes, the last I heard they don't enforce this anymore. Not enough person power.

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I'm wondering if anyone can confirm for me the upload/download limits with the 'regular' Shaw high speed service. I see in the TOS it says a total of 60 GB including uploading/downloading. Does this pertain to torrenting? If not, what are the limits in this area?

Thanks.

It means total bandwidth usage. So ALL internet traffic is used. Torrents, games, surfing, etc.

[ricosuave]

I cant answer the actual limits question, but I will say that if you are too aggressive with the uploading, Shaw will send a letter and or call you.

I had a tenant that was totally abusing torrent sites, and Shaw told me that it wasnt so much the downloading that they didnt like, it was the uploading.

[Azure]

I think a lot of ISP put the limit thing in their contract....how many of them actually enforce it though?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Azure

I think a lot of ISP put the limit thing in their contract....how many of them actually enforce it though?

Most of them. But largely, it is basically the upload limit that they are sticklers about. Rogers is very strict. Shaw sents notices and phone calls. They are still customer oriented though so they won't bug you unless you really do use up a lot and stick out.

[Azure]

What would you call using up a lot though?

100 gigs per month?

I could probably hit 200 gigs every month if I really wanted too.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by Azure

What would you call using up a lot though?

100 gigs per month?

I could probably hit 200 gigs every month if I really wanted too.

You will get a call/letter. Upgrade to Extreme-I its worth the $2/Mbs, the speed boost and the increase in UP/DOWN.

[Hemi-Cuda]

the official limits are 60gb for regular high speed and 100gb for x-treme (nitro uses the x-treme limits). and Shaw doesn't differentiate between torrents or regular downloads/uploads, traffic is traffic. though it is true they pay much more attention to the upstream bandwidth over the downstream. if you're over the limits and your download/upload ratio is 10:1, they'll likely leave you alone. however the more that ratio approaches 1 the higher the likelyhood of you getting flagged (and once you're flagged you're termed a power user and consistently monitored)

but really, i consider myself a heavy user and i get nowhere close to approaching the 100gb limit. i leave utorrent on for a good 8-10 hours a day (however long my PC is on for) constantly uploading to keep my ratio good at torrent sites and the most i ever traffic in a heavy month is maybe 70-75 gigs. to get higher than that you have to be hitting newsgroups and FTPs pretty heavily, which most users never do

[Hemi-Cuda]

oh and if you are worried about your bandwidth usage, you can call in to the technical support guys and they can enable your online account to view your monthly bandwidth usage

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

oh and if you are worried about your bandwidth usage, you can call in to the technical support guys and they can enable your online account to view your monthly bandwidth usage

but how can you plead ignorance then

Had a friend who managed to get himself a warning. 160 up in a month on the normal package. IIRC they downgraded him to shaw lite for a couple days until he got in touch with them.

I don't think anyone really cares about the download.

[Engine09]

I go through CIA, which is Shaw in essence.

I was out of town for a week, get home to find my modem out of order. Send and Receive LEDs flashing in unison. After an hour on hold I get a hold of someone who tells me that the modem is fine, it just may be that due to bandwidth usage that they disabled my connection.

I said: "alright, well turn it back on".

Them: "Ok, should be done by tomorrow afternoon."

[The Yen Man]

Just be happy it's not 15 gigs like it used to be. I remember back in my university days, I've always hit over the 50 gig mark each month and every month they'd call and tell me I couldn't do it. Eventually I think they stopped my service for like a week or something.

[Old Yeller]

Does anyone else reset their cable modem habitually? I'll leave my torrents going all night and come down and reset and I've never gotten a letter/email/phone call from shaw.

Not sure if it does anything or if I've just gotten lucky.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Old Yeller

Not sure if it does anything or if I've just gotten lucky.

has nothing to do with it.

With extreme it's pretty hard to run over their cap actually. Basically you need to be running at near max upload for 10 hours per day every day to hit 100gigs on the month.

Basically if you cap your torrents at 40 kbps you can run em 24/7 and not worry about shaw cause you'll just get up near the cap. It was more of a issue when the upload cap was alot lower. Now until they raise the upload speeds the cap is pretty high

[@theCBE]

I got a call from them awhile ago.. I wasn't using torrents but I had left my kazaa or limewire open for a whole weekend (after a couple viruses I don't use those anymore) and I managed to upload 35 gigs in 2 days. They gave me a warning. They have never bugged me about my downloading though.. over x-mas I downloaded almost 200 gigs in a couple weeks and shaw never said anything.

[Bobblehead]

I looked at my Telus account, and beside the bandwidth limit it says "grandfathered". I've never gotten a notice and for sure have blown away the posted limit in most months. Maybe I have carte blanche. *rubs hands together expectantly*

[ken0042]

When I signed up for Shaw, I did it online and made sure to print out the page; because it specifically states "high speed internet with no limits whatsoever!" I think they were referring to dial up users who had X number of hours per month, but if Shaw ever calls me on it I should be fine.

For those who go over but haven't been called on it, a while ago I was told that part of it depends on how many offenders there are on your local node. So if nobody else in your neighbourhood is a habitual downloader they won't go after the one person on the block.

[theJuice]

I use telus broadband. I used to always think that their were no limits as well, Back then, I never really d/led that much, maybe a couple movies per month but nothing major at all, my d/ls were probably normally like 5 gigs per much, with barely any uploading. Then all of a sudden, I started getting into anime and well, porn, my d/ls suddenly started shooting up to like 100-150 gigs per month. Even worse I guess, is that I actually started caring about ratios and various things on torrent sites, and actually uploaded quite a bit. I actually got a couple calls from telus, and they even sent us a letter.

To be honest, it kinda freaked me out at first, and I sorta tempered it down, but eventually, I went back to doing it. That was like a year ago, and I've been d/ling just as much, so as of right now, things are going good.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Old Yeller

Does anyone else reset their cable modem habitually? I'll leave my torrents going all night and come down and reset and I've never gotten a letter/email/phone call from shaw.

Not sure if it does anything or if I've just gotten lucky.

that used to work with the old motorola modems (the flat grey ones), they would send their transfer data to the Shaw network every 4 hours, so if you figured out your modem's cycle you could reset it right before it transmitted the data and it would have nothing to send as a power cycle would wipe it's memory. it has no effect with the current DOCSIS modems though, they track in real time so a reset only inconveniences the user