To be honest - I don't think we need to go wild with penalties for most of these people. There are some - who yes should see some penalities.
That said - we've saw in Windsor just the threat of action clears out a bunch of these people. There are a lot who will just clear out if you threaten something like this.
Sure we do, they should have done it from the start instead of "negotiating". As soon as your creating blockades and affecting trade like the Windsor bridge there should be immediate action. I have no problem with protesting and think that's perfectly fine as long as you're not creating blockades.
Pretty strong inditement on our goverment when you contrast this to how they handle indigenous protests. You can guarantee if it was first nations protesting in this fashion they'd put an end to it right quick. Quite the double standard when it's a bunch of right wing idiots though.
Protesting and exercising your rights to free speech and expression - perfectly fine. Creating blockades and impeding trade that negatively effects the economy for the rest of us - absolutely not and that should have consequences for those partaking.
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That would be a massively dumb move and more than likely political suicide.
They already have whatever legal power they need to clear them out. If they are not going to call in the military or actually get a proper plan with the police in place, all the 'oh gonna invoke new big bad law' is pointless.
I think we are literally witnessing the biggest breakdown of domestic government in modern history. For sure relating to the border blockades.
As someone who thinks Trudeau is a moron of epic proportions, this is both fascinating & sad to watch.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has told his caucus he will invoke the never-before-used Emergencies Act to give the federal government extra powers to handle the protests across the country, according to sources.
Those sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly, said the prime minister will inform the premiers of his decision later today.
In a meeting with the Liberal caucus Monday morning, Trudeau said there were no plans to deploy the military, the sources said.
The legislation, which replaced the War Measures Act, defines a national emergency as a temporary "urgent and critical situation" that "seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians and is of such proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it."
Sure we do, they should have done it from the start instead of "negotiating". As soon as your creating blockades and affecting trade like the Windsor bridge there should be immediate action. I have no problem with protesting and think that's perfectly fine as long as you're not creating blockades.
Pretty strong inditement on our goverment when you contrast this to how they handle indigenous protests. You can guarantee if it was first nations protesting in this fashion they'd put an end to it right quick. Quite the double standard when it's a bunch of right wing idiots though.
Protesting and exercising your rights to free speech and expression - perfectly fine. Creating blockades and impeding trade that negatively effects the economy for the rest of us - absolutely not and that should have consequences for those partaking.
Yup.
In reference to the border blockades, they literally just need to clear the blockades and keep traffic flowing. That can't be that hard.
That would be a massively dumb move and more than likely political suicide.
They already have whatever legal power they need to clear them out. If they are not going to call in the military or actually get a proper plan with the police in place, all the 'oh gonna invoke new big bad law' is pointless.
I think we are literally witnessing the biggest breakdown of domestic government in modern history. For sure relating to the border blockades.
As someone who thinks Trudeau is a moron of epic proportions, this is both fascinating & sad to watch.
Which part? Read the definition of the Emergency Act. It doesn't even necessarily apply to the protests in Ottawa. Not to the level of where you should be actually invoking it. Without using the military to actually physically clear out the protests, how exactly will the federal government do anything? Make a big ruh rah to the media about how the protestors are tearing the country apart and they should all be put in the gulag?
As for the border blockades, they already have all the legal power & policing resources to clear them, but for whatever reason the government wasn't acting. With the Windsor blockade went, I guess it was the Ontario Police.
Its all a big let me show you what I'm going to do now without actually doing anything. Has been from the start.
Watching CBC News. Ambassador Bridge is finally open to traffic today. Just the auto industry alone suffered approx. $1 billion dollars in lost revenue due to the blockade. The overall tally including other businesses and industries isn't in yet.
Which part? Read the definition of the Emergency Act. It doesn't even necessarily apply to the protests in Ottawa. Not to the level of where you should be actually invoking it. Without using the military to actually physically clear out the protests, how exactly will the federal government do anything? Make a big ruh rah to the media about how the protestors are tearing the country apart and they should all be put in the gulag?
As for the border blockades, they already have all the legal power & policing resources to clear them, but for whatever reason the government wasn't acting. With the Windsor blockade went, I guess it was the Ontario Police.
Its all a big let me show you what I'm going to do now without actually doing anything. Has been from the start.
Uhm, ok I will...
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8 (1) While a declaration of a public welfare emergency is in effect, the Governor in Council may make such orders or regulations with respect to the following matters as the Governor in Council believes, on reasonable grounds, are necessary for dealing with the emergency:
(a) the regulation or prohibition of travel to, from or within any specified area, where necessary for the protection of the health or safety of individuals;
(b) the evacuation of persons and the removal of personal property from any specified area and the making of arrangements for the adequate care and protection of the persons and property;
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Which part? Read the definition of the Emergency Act. It doesn't even necessarily apply to the protests in Ottawa. Not to the level of where you should be actually invoking it. Without using the military to actually physically clear out the protests, how exactly will the federal government do anything? Make a big ruh rah to the media about how the protestors are tearing the country apart and they should all be put in the gulag?
As for the border blockades, they already have all the legal power & policing resources to clear them, but for whatever reason the government wasn't acting. With the Windsor blockade went, I guess it was the Ontario Police.
Its all a big let me show you what I'm going to do now without actually doing anything. Has been from the start.
From what I understand,
The military really can't be used for police actions. Nor should it.
They can support the police with logistics and transportation and such, but they are not allowed to arrest anyone not in the military.
Really have no idea what the invoking of the emergencies act is supposed to do here, i guess we will get details later, but the last guy to use it (it replaced the War measures act) was papa T in relation to the FLQ crisis when actual real domestic terrorists were kidnapping and killing members of government.
Of course Kenney is against it. It's not like he doesn't have his own laws he's not using to take care of his potential supporters at the border. Guy is a political coward fearing for his job, that's it.
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Of course Kenney is against it. It's not like he doesn't have his own laws he's not using to take care of his potential supporters at the border. Guy is a political coward fearing for his job, that's it.
His priorities of course are worrying about the CBC
The military really can't be used for police actions. Nor should it.
They can support the police with logistics and transportation and such, but they are not allowed to arrest anyone not in the military.
Really have no idea what the invoking of the emergencies act is supposed to do here, i guess we will get details later, but the last guy to use it (it replaced the War measures act) was papa T in relation to the FLQ crisis when actual real domestic terrorists were kidnapping and killing members of government.
Which part? Read the definition of the Emergency Act. It doesn't even necessarily apply to the protests in Ottawa. Not to the level of where you should be actually invoking it. Without using the military to actually physically clear out the protests, how exactly will the federal government do anything? Make a big ruh rah to the media about how the protestors are tearing the country apart and they should all be put in the gulag?
As for the border blockades, they already have all the legal power & policing resources to clear them, but for whatever reason the government wasn't acting. With the Windsor blockade went, I guess it was the Ontario Police.
Its all a big let me show you what I'm going to do now without actually doing anything. Has been from the start.
To me it puts the onus on the federal government to take control of this and eliminates the 'who's responsible' questions that provinces and the federal government have used to do nothing.
Guy discovers actions have consequences, goes begging for money.
Oh, and his name isn't int he givesend donor list. Not saying he's lying, he could have only donated to the gofundme, but...
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As a result of the investigation officers seized:
32 packages of suspected cannabis (approximately 1700 grams - with packaging)
2 half empty bottles of alcohol
25.8 grams of suspected cocaine (with bag)
a number of cell phones
3 bottles containing suspected codeine
110 suspected Ecstacy pills
a quantity of Canadian currency
Daniel Esliger, 20, of Windsor, is facing numerous charges including driving while suspended, driving with unsealed container of liquor, and numerous charges related to drug possession for the purpose of trafficking / distributing.
Where is the 54% number coming from? Just yesterday there was a poll saying 46% sympathize with the convoy, but a much smaller number supported their tactics.
