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04-25-2019, 07:54 AM
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First Line Centre
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Thanks Brad, don't worry - you're doing a fine job.
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04-25-2019, 08:06 AM
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#3
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GOAT!
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This notion that it’s ok to fail because everyone else failed is not a notion that I can get behind.
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04-25-2019, 08:09 AM
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First Line Centre
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It's not really about them failing as much as it is about how they failed.
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04-25-2019, 08:18 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I'm not mad at the team. I'm more disappointed with the timing of the Flames having their best regular season in decades coinciding with the 2nd most (according to a recent Athletic article) chaotic NHL postseason ever.
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04-25-2019, 08:38 AM
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#6
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
This notion that it’s ok to fail because everyone else failed is not a notion that I can get behind.
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I don't think the idea is "it's ok to fall" as much as "failure doesn't require a extreme response".
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04-25-2019, 08:42 AM
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#7
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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it's interesting that while the standings didn't correlate to the 1st round winners, regular season goals against average somewhat did, as 6/8 teams to advance had a better GAA
Grubauer - 2.69
Smith - 2.73
Holtby - 2.67
Mrazek - 2.39
Vasilevskiy - 2.40
Bobrovsky - 2.58
Rinne - 2.42
Bishop - 1.98
Jones - 2.94
Fleury - 2.51
Murray - 2.69
Lehner - 2.13
Binnington - 1.89
Hellebuyck - 2.90
Rask - 2.48
Andersen - 2.77
The Knights also choked 3-1 series lead and 3-0 game 7 3rd period lead or it would be 7/8.
I guess what I am saying is maybe the Flames need to play tighter checking in the RS to be ready for tighter checking in the post season. But can they do it without the Gulutzan Effect?
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04-25-2019, 08:46 AM
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#8
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
It's not really about them failing as much as it is about how they failed.
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Yep, if it was a hard fought series it would be easier to accept. I wasn't impressed with any of their games including game 1. Game 2's effort I gave them a break because sometimes winning 4-0 can make you think you don't need to be better but after that they should have woke up.
Like I mentioned after game 4, I don't think I've ever been this embarrassed of the Flames in my life. They've had some bad teams but those teams were suppose to suck.
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04-25-2019, 08:54 AM
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#9
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Somewhat, it took some sting off to see all the other favourites lose, but all the other division winners have had more recent playoff success than the flames, so...
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I'm not mad at the team. I'm more disappointed with the timing of the Flames having their best regular season in decades coinciding with the 2nd most (according to a recent Athletic article) chaotic NHL postseason ever.
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I bet that when/if the flames enter the playoffs as an underdog again the postseason will go right back to normal
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04-25-2019, 08:55 AM
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I will just leave this here, and take from it what you like.
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Sportsnet Stats
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This is the first time in major North American pro sports history (NHL/NBA/MLB/NFL) that every division winner was eliminated in their opening series /game
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04-25-2019, 08:55 AM
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#11
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Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickle Juice
rom Brad Treliving was “how old is Ovechikin, didn’t he just get his first one?”
That line can’t be more true in my opinion, you need to loose a few to win. This is a very young core and fingers have been pointed at Johnny, Money, and so on, but as far as I’m concerned this is a team game and no one other than Bennett and Smith were playing well.
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The Flames aren't even in the playoffs long enough to learn about the disappointment of going through a war and falling short. There are not a lot of lessons to be learned from getting destroyed in the first round other than you aren't good enough for playoff hockey and need to fix that.
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"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
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04-25-2019, 08:57 AM
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#12
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Location: Calgary
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It was a shameful performance by the Flames.
They were flat out DOMINATED in 4/5 games, and relied on heroics from Smith to even win Game 1.
Outside of Tampa, the other teams experiencing disappointment at least put up a fight in their series.
You can easily make the case that the Flames were the WORST TEAM in the first round, even factoring in Tampa's sweep - Tampa was bad, but they weren't Flames bad.
EDIT: Want to add, it's getting tiring to hear this was a "learning experience" for the team... you mean to tell me that getting swept by the Ducks 2 years ago didn't help Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Gio, Brodie, Backlund learn at all?? How about the 5 game elimination by the Ducks 4 years ago (Gio excluded from that one of course)? Either this team is full of stupid players who take FOREVER to learn, or they are full of players who can't raise their game.
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04-25-2019, 08:58 AM
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#13
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sempuki
I don't think the idea is "it's ok to fall" as much as "failure doesn't require a extreme response".
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As was mentioned above, it's not that they failed. It's how they failed.
Tampa technically failed worse than we did, but I feel a hell of lot more comfortable about their ability to win playoff games than ours.
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04-25-2019, 08:58 AM
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#14
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7 other team fan sites just had the same post.
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04-25-2019, 09:00 AM
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#15
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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I'm all about finding optimism in the team that wears your colours - as we don't have much choice in the matter...
But in between 'everything's fine' and 'trade everyone' is the answer. That was a horrible playoffs, but let's not forget that we've had some questions since the All-Star Break
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04-25-2019, 09:03 AM
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#16
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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I have 2 players left in playoff pool,
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04-25-2019, 09:03 AM
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#17
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford
You can easily make the case that the Flames were the WORST TEAM in the first round, even factoring in Tampa's sweep - Tampa was bad, but they weren't Flames bad.
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Tampa has also had lengthy playoff runs in recent years. When the Flames do actually make it, they are out as soon as it starts. Let's see if this team can actually take a series to 6 or 7 games before declaring they are learning valuable lessons about winning by getting destroyed every series.
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A few weeks after crashing head-first into the boards (denting his helmet and being unable to move for a little while) following a hit from behind by Bob Errey, the Calgary Flames player explains:
"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
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04-25-2019, 09:08 AM
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#18
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Actually, the first round results have made me even more disappointed the Flames had such a disastrous playoffs, because the path to the cup really opened up once Tampa was eliminated. Stacked against any other team, the Flames should have been the favourite throughout the rest of the playoffs. The fact that Sharks and the Golden Knights beat the crap out of each other would have set the Flames up really well to make conference finals.
Alas, it was not to be, and it feels like an even more wasted opportunity.
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04-25-2019, 09:17 AM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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No. Its my ledge. I've made my home here and its where I'm most comfortable. The Calgary Flames have only rarely given me any reason to abandon it.
Its like a warm but uncomfortable blanket.
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04-25-2019, 09:20 AM
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Now that the First Round is over will everyone step away from the ledge?
No, the season was good but it ended in embarrassing failure. Flames have garnered the reputation as a paper tiger team and they’ve still yet to prove otherwise. 6 months of hard work to only get dominated vs the 8 seed. Brutal
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