[Signing] Panthers sign Troy Brouwer (1yr, 1 way, $850k)

[Johnny Makarov]

[TheScorpion]

Personally, I'd argue that Boedker was a good signing but that's neither here nor there.

[AC]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Personally, I'd argue that Boedker was a good signing but that's neither here nor there.

I don't know, he went from 0.64 PPG ($3.75M) and 0.62 PPG ($2.55M) prior to signing with SJ to 0.41 PPG average with the Sharks with a 4 x $4M contract.

Seemed like the consensus is that trading Boedker to Ottawa was considered a smart salary dump.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by AC

I don't know, he went from 0.64 PPG ($3.75M) and 0.62 PPG ($2.55M) prior to signing with SJ to 0.41 PPG average with the Sharks with a 4 x $4M contract.

Seemed like the consensus is that trading Boedker to Ottawa was considered a smart salary dump.

I think a lot of that was just a rough first season of adjustment to a new team after spending most of his career with one. He seemed to rebound well enough last year but maybe I'm just remembering his team beating down the Flames over and over at the end of last year.

[AC]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think a lot of that was just a rough first season of adjustment to a new team after spending most of his career with one. He seemed to rebound well enough last year but maybe I'm just remembering his team beating down the Flames over and over at the end of last year.

Well... he had 0 pts in 3 games vs Calgary last year despite the Sharks scoring 15 against us!

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by AC

Well... he had 0 pts in 3 games vs Calgary last year despite the Sharks scoring 15 against us!

Well, this is what relying on anecdotes off the top of your head gets you. Now I look foolish.

Still, 37 points in 74 games isn't necessarily something to sniff at.

[The Boy Wonder]

Best of Luck to Brouwer...


Hopefully he can endear himself to his new teammates by not standing up for them and always having outlet passes bounce off his stick and straight to the opposing d-man.

He really did work on those two things a LOT in calgary

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Has any player ever been bought out of a 1 year contract?

Is this really a serious question?


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Personally, I'd argue that Boedker was a good signing but that's neither here nor there.

It was a horrible signing.



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[jayswin]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Well, this is what relying on anecdotes off the top of your head gets you. Now I look foolish.

Still, 37 points in 74 games isn't necessarily something to sniff at.

It is for 4x4mil.

[gamesaver]

Honestly Brouwer for 850k is not a bad thing at all. His cap hit was the only issue, if we signed him for similar deal noone would complain about him.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Honestly Brouwer for 850k is not a bad thing at all. His cap hit was the only issue, if we signed him for similar deal noone would complain about him.

Oh I think you know that's not true.

[Flash Walken]

i still can't make heads or tails of this.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Is this really a serious question?


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I know I'm blue collar, but no not serious.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Honestly Brouwer for 850k is not a bad thing at all. His cap hit was the only issue, if we signed him for similar deal noone would complain about him.

I disagree. If Brouwer was an effective bottom 6 player, he would probably still be a Flame. Florida is a budget team and I doubt they will want to pay an NHL salary to a player in the AHL. Brouwer will be in their opening day lineup. Which means they will be playing an AHL-level player in the NHL.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I disagree. If Brouwer was an effective bottom 6 player, he would probably still be a Flame. Florida is a budget team and I doubt they will want to pay an NHL salary to a player in the AHL. Brouwer will be in their opening day lineup. Which means they will be playing an AHL-level player in the NHL.

This. It took a lot to decide to keep Brouwer on the books for the next 4 years. Can't imagine the team wouldn't have preferred keeping him one more year if he could have been a serviceable bottom line player.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I disagree. If Brouwer was an effective bottom 6 player, he would probably still be a Flame. Florida is a budget team and I doubt they will want to pay an NHL salary to a player in the AHL. Brouwer will be in their opening day lineup. Which means they will be playing an AHL-level player in the NHL.

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This. It took a lot to decide to keep Brouwer on the books for the next 4 years. Can't imagine the team wouldn't have preferred keeping him one more year if he could have been a serviceable bottom line player.

I don't know about that. Even if there's no drop off between him and, say Lazar and a rookie like Foo, Klimchuk, Mangiapane or a guy like Hathaway, that $4M is going to be needed if there's a long term Hanifin deal.

Depending on the task, I think that Brouwer is still a better player than at least some of the kids. But he is way too expensive given the Flames' current cap situation and needs, and he is getting in the way of development. I've always been someone who said that, once signed, salary was not an issue unless a cap crunch occurred. Well, here it is, and the prospect development aspect is not insignificant issue.

For a team like Fla, getting Brouwer as a fill-in at that price isn't a bad move. That salary can be buried if necessary.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I disagree. If Brouwer was an effective bottom 6 player, he would probably still be a Flame. Florida is a budget team and I doubt they will want to pay an NHL salary to a player in the AHL. Brouwer will be in their opening day lineup. Which means they will be playing an AHL-level player in the NHL.

Sometimes players need a fresh start.



Brouwer at $850k on the Flames is not a good deal. He was done here an nothing could revive his career save a trade.



Brouwer at $850k in Florida might be a good deal. If he regains his form (decent possibility) he will be effective. If he provides leadership to a young club, that is a bonus.



In other words, Brouwer is not an effective 4th liner on the Flames at any price. He may be serviceable in Florida.

[Enoch Root]

He is better than some of the kids, but there isn't room in the lineup for him, even at $850k.

After the top 9, we have: Ryan, Czarnik, Rychel, Lazar and Hathaway.

He is arguably better than Hathaway, but at least Hathaway provides grit. Can it be argued that he would improve the 4th line? I certainly don't think so. SO we're talking 13th or 14th forward.

Then there are the kids: Mangiapane, Dube and Foo. While it can certainly be argued that he is better than them (at the moment), is he valuable enough that you would want to add him to the roster, putting another body in their way? I don't think so.

I would prefer to see if one of them can step up to the next level. If so, I would rather them than Brouwer. But even if not, he doesn't improve the prior group.

So, no - I wouldn't take him at $850k.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Honestly Brouwer for 850k is not a bad thing at all. His cap hit was the only issue, if we signed him for similar deal noone would complain about him.

Haha, no, he doesn't bring anything that is lacking based on the moves Tre made this summer. He isn't better than the younger guys on the team. I don't care if he played 7 minutes a night or even 5, I would still bitch every time he was on the ice because he is slow, has zero offense and does not provide any positives IMO.

Glad he is gone. Stating that people wouldn't complain about him at 850k is silly after what we have witnessed over the last 2 seasons.