No Looking Like a Cop at the Pride Parade

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

From looking around at a couple articles about it, it is. EPS had agreed with them, and had a presence this year as well as a booth...all with people not in uniform. That is now not good enough, and they are not being invited back. So yes, this is an escalation step

Again, no, it’s not (in the grand scheme of things). As I said, this simply mirrors the decisions of YYC, Toronto, and Vancouver in the past year banning institutional representation. Maybe you misunderstood what this thread was started on, but it was YYC Pride banning institutional representation (including an official presence, booth, floats, etc).

So this is not an escalation, it’s YEG mirroring other Pride decisions, including the one this thread was started on. Saying “now being out of uniform isn’t good enough” is a disingenuous bump of this thread. Being out of uniform alone wasn’t good enough in Calgary last year either.

As always, all members of these organisations are welcome to march as citizens.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Again, no, it’s not (in the grand scheme of things). As I said, this simply mirrors the decisions of YYC, Toronto, and Vancouver in the past year banning institutional representation. Maybe you misunderstood what this thread was started on, but it was YYC Pride banning institutional representation (including an official presence, booth, floats, etc).

So this is not an escalation, it’s YEG mirroring other Pride decisions, including the one this thread was started on. Saying “now being out of uniform isn’t good enough” is a disingenuous bump of this thread. Being out of uniform alone wasn’t good enough in Calgary last year either.

As always, all members of these organisations are welcome to march as citizens.

Ah, I get the difference/my confusion now. Edmonton was actually being more progressive than Calgary, Toronto and Vancouver, by allowing institutional representation (aside from a float) as long as the people running that didn't wear uniforms, and is now taking a step backwards.

Thanks for the clarity.

[PepsiFree]

Sure, view it however you’d like. Not much else to say, as we two are not without our biases on each side lol.

[Slava]

The whole thing is weird to me. The organizers of these parades won't let police in them, or the UCP in Alberta, but the point is that they're pushing for greater inclusion and acceptance no matter who people are?

[V]

Since when has the pride parade been about inclusion?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by V

Since when has the pride parade been about inclusion?

Maybe I'm off base, but isn't that the underlying point? Love whoever you please, love conquers all and that kind of thing? That's inclusion to me, unless I'm misunderstanding?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Slava

Maybe I'm off base, but isn't that the underlying point? Love whoever you please, love conquers all and that kind of thing? That's inclusion to me, unless I'm misunderstanding?

I guess if you remove any semblance of LGBTQ culture from it.

That just kind of takes away from the point of it though. You can march in it and believe in the things you mentioned, but it’s worth knowing the background and the actual point of pride organisations across the world.

The parade itself takes on different meanings and moods depending on where it’s held (and how accepting that city or country is), but there’s a history of activism and strength in it that shouldn’t be lost in my opinion. A pride parade with a purpose no greater than “love conquers all” isn’t a pride parade worth having, IMO.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Slava

Maybe I'm off base, but isn't that the underlying point? Love whoever you please, love conquers all and that kind of thing? That's inclusion to me, unless I'm misunderstanding?

I think it's probably good to remember what was going on in the news last year before Pride...


http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/...o-police-chief


It's been mentioned several times that being inclusive of this sort of thing is ironic at best and completely hypocritical at worst.