"Take that Calgary Puck!" — SN960 and Calgary sports media discussion

[colbym72]

Say what you want about Nault but at least he isn't afraid to rip this team and doesn't tow the company line. Props to the rant he just did

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

They're replaying Robert's rant right now.

Amazing. I approve.

For someone that "wants them to lose every game" he sure gets mad when they lose

Like the passion though

[djsFlames]

He says a curb stomping of Ottawa won't impress anybody,

But hell, let's start there. You have to start somewhere.

Let's see this team lay the boot to ANY ONE to show us and themselves that they can do it, and go from there.

It's not going to be fixed overnight no, but the journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.

I just think Nault goes on overdrive and looks so far ahead that nothing could possibly satisfy him.

Just a little too far off one end of the scale.

Edit: lol this is Klein. I swear I can't tell those two apart much of the time.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yup and the thing with Loubo is that it comes off genuine.

With him I’m not sure it’s as much that he’s a paid shill for the team but actually that he’s just a genuinely nice guy that wouldn’t want to talk poorly about people he likely considers his friends in public.

Wills on the other hand is annoying because it 100% comes off as being a paid shill for the organization.

I was going to say exactly this.

Loubo's soliloquys can be annoying as ####, but he is genuine and I respect him.

Wills is an apologetic dishrag.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I was going to say exactly this.

Loubo's soliloquys can be annoying as ####, but he is genuine and I respect him.

Wills is an apologetic dishrag.

Lol @ when Wills prefaces half his statements with "I might be a homer for saying this but.."

Win or lose miserably, he always has a couple of those lined up for each interview.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Lou was actually upfront about what he was saying.”there are things I can’t say”

He’s employed by the team. If he wants to rip them up and down then he can find a new employer. That isn’t his job. He’s a professional and I think he addressed the tire fire of a game/season professionally.

Pinder can rip them all he wants, and they deserve it, but he doesn’t have Lou’s job.

Lou’s in a tough spot. His job is the help sell winning or hope. Right now there isn’t a whole lot of either.

Without turning this season around somewhat and getting value back for Gaudreau and Monahan based on their contracts and play, there is little that can be done. Even coaching. Bringing in a new coach who can’t really interact with the players in limited practice sessions?

Good luck.

They need more than anything is to have a sports psychologist overhaul the entire group. Last night was almost a cry for help.


The likelihood of that working is a prayer but it’s something that has been self evident for almost a 1/2 decade. Maybe they’re doing it behind the scenes. I don’t know.

Their play is far from being described as professional and clinical.

Trade deadline will be the moment where everything comes to a fruition with 36 more games of this garbage or they pull things out of the fire.

Rogers owns the Calgary Flames now do they?

Wasnt asking him to "rip the tam" either.

Say what he can say and move the hell on...instead he tap-danced and obfuscated and asked about 30 rhetorical questions that left me wondering what the hell they were even talking about.

Again...absolutely awful radio.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I absolutely HATE people that do this as a general conversational technique. The last boss I had did the same thing, pose a question and have you try to finish their thought as if you're an extension of their internal monologue.

It puts so much pressure on a person, and it's ridiculously awkward if you answer incorrectly or say you don't know.

I had a boss like that, it was a power technique for an insecure person. Guys could speak to their area better than he could and so he would put you in this weird game just like that, in front of others.

"In area X we need to do what?" "Umm, sorry are you, uh referring specifically to..." "WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS..". So embarrassing, but enough people saw through it that it only reflected poorly on him, despite everyone stammering and struggling through it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Rogers owns the Calgary Flames now do they?

Wasnt asking him to "rip the tam" either.

Say what he can say and move the hell on...instead he tap-danced and obfuscated and asked about 30 rhetorical questions that left me wondering what the hell they were even talking about.

Again...absolutely awful radio.

I actually think team radio broadcasts crews are a little complicated employment-wise.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I actually think team radio broadcasts crews are a little complicated employment-wise.

There was a time when the Flames employed their broadcast crews.

I do not believe that to be the case any longer.

Kelly Kirch (sp..always get it wrong) is the boss for both Loubo and Willis. They mention it all the time. Guys that work for the radio station work for Rogers. Both those guys do things for the station beyond NHL games.

Maybe there is a side deal we arent familiar with or maybe the team has to approve of who is doing the games though? Im not sure. At any rate I do not believe the guys are handcuffed from being critical of any player or part of the organization if they so choose.

[transplant99]

Not related to the Flames or 960, but worth a mention to hockey fans in general.

Absolutely remarkable.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1365691099973447681

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by transplant99

There was a time when the Flames employed their broadcast crews.

I do not believe that to be the case any longer.

Kelly Kirch (sp..always get it wrong) is the boss for both Loubo and Willis. They mention it all the time. Guys that work for the radio station work for Rogers. Both those guys do things for the station beyond NHL games.

Maybe there is a side deal we aren't familiar with or maybe the team has to approve of who is doing the games though? Im not sure. At any rate I do not believe the guys are handcuffed from being critical of any player or part of the organization if they so choose.

I would imagine these days things are very similar to the Edmonton relationship. "You're wanting to be part of the team with access and privilege, you will act at least in part as part of the team with how you report and discuss".

Obviously can't say for sure, but the relationship has given off that vibe for a lot of years now, and no reason the Flames wouldn't strong arm and work to control the message coming out as much as possible. It usually works in small to mid markets, not so much in the bigger centres with too many viable media outlets and personalities to counter a team supporting group at one station.

[GirlySports]

Doesn't that just make the Flames organization small and insecure that they need a compliant media? Or the media is too weak that they have to comply?

I'm familiar with the Montreal market and the media just rips that team (especially in French) and that's how it is. They rip the team so much francophones don't even want to play there anymore.

[hixxes]

Regional broadcasters are afforded access and travelling perks by the teams they cover. Wills, Loubo, or Peter and others before them cannot be expected to deliver the same level of criticism that other broadcasters can. They travel with the team, stay with the team, and are with the players day in day out. Mike Rogers near the end of his tenure certainly deviated from that but he likely knew his time was short and just didn't give a damn anymore.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by hixxes

Regional broadcasters are afforded access and travelling perks by the teams they cover. Wills, Loubo, or Peter and others before them cannot be expected to deliver the same level of criticism that other broadcasters can. They travel with the team, stay with the team, and are with the players day in day out. Mike Rogers near the end of his tenure certainly deviated from that but he likely knew his time was short and just didn't give a damn anymore.

Mike Rogers, like Warrener, also clearly never “needed” this job. He played at the highest level, had a prolific career, and had wisdom and insight to offer. He wasn't there because he needed the cheque (assumption on my part, I admit).

Lou most assuredly does.

[Jacks]

Based on what they were saying yesterday they weren't being controlled by the team. They were blasting everyone from players to coaches to front office to ownership.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Mike Rogers, like Warrener, also clearly never “needed” this job. He played at the highest level, had a prolific career, and had wisdom and insight to offer. He wasn't there because he needed the cheque (assumption on my part, I admit).

Lou most assuredly does.

Rogers played in the pre-big money era. And he only played 7 years in the NHL because he started in the WHA. Lots of those guys didn’t have much when they left the game.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It is funny that even when I agree with Nault I don’t like him. He is just like Francis has this arrogant tone to his voice. Just terrible

Nault is pretty much the reason why I don't listen to the afternoon show. I actually think Steinberg is pretty good and I don't mind Klein either.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Lol @ when Wills prefaces half his statements with "I might be a homer for saying this but.."

Win or lose miserably, he always has a couple of those lined up for each interview.

Doesn't he ride on the plane with the team though? He's probably constantly interacting with the team and having real life conversations with them. I'd imagine that makes it tougher to criticize guys. I think he does a pretty good job of telling it like it is given those circumstances if that's how they are.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Nault is pretty much the reason why I don't listen to the afternoon show. I actually think Steinberg is pretty good and I don't mind Klein either.

Yeah me too. He should focus on producing the show whilst STFU.

His tired, lazy, amateur takes and analysis make entire discussions a waste of time.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not related to the Flames or 960, but worth a mention to hockey fans in general.

Absolutely remarkable.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1365691099973447681

Growing up in Medicine hat Bob Ridley was a community staple. You couldn't throw a rock 5 feet without him helping the community in one way or another.