Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Oh boy. So you are saying Liberal insiders haven’t fed at the trough over the last 10 years.

Good lord. I have to go back to the hockey side.

Yes, the Alberta Liberal party has been doing this for a long time.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Torture

Can't have it both ways Smith.

-snip tweets-

The wind direction must have changed.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I mean, does she only want one type of immigrant? Ukrainians?

Yes.

"Alberta has always welcomed newcomers who possess our shared values - and we will continue to do so."
Translation: We don't want any of those non-white immigrants that don't pass our non-existent values test, they might eat our cats and dogs, who knows!?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I mean, does she only want one type of immigrant? Ukrainians?

Yes, and that's only because Alberta has such a high existing Ukrainian population and pissing them off would be political suicide.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Torture

Yes.

"Alberta has always welcomed newcomers who possess our shared values - and we will continue to do so."
Translation: We don't want any of those non-white immigrants that don't pass our non-existent values test, they might eat our cats and dogs, who knows!?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Torture

Yes.

"Alberta has always welcomed newcomers who possess our shared values - and we will continue to do so."
Translation: We don't want any of those non-white immigrants that don't pass our non-existent values test, they might eat our cats and dogs, who knows!?

For as bad as the Ukrainian situation is, the situation in Haiti might be equal or worse. I'd be curious to know how she would accomodate both if the UCP's Alberta is calling.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

For as bad as the Ukrainian situation is, the situation in Haiti might be equal or worse. I'd be curious to know how she would accomodate both if the UCP's Alberta is calling.

Well it would also solve the excess stray pet problem here. Win/Win?

[Looch City]

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[PsYcNeT]

Just when you think they can't go any lower...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1834626937412792678

[Monahammer]

The Ukrainian asylum seekers are all funneled in under CUAET so not tracked with the rest, but they would still undoutedly make up the largest group of asylum seekers over the last year.

https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statis...DStat2023.aspx

This page lists the rest. So it could boil down to racism, but IMO right now it's easier to chalk it up to just plain ol stupidity and incompetence. Don't put out a massive residential attraction campaign and petition the feds for more settlement and then claim that we don't have room.

[Fuzz]

I think it boils down to right wing anti-immigrant sentiment, and Smith having her leadership review coming up, and oh, surprise! She's beholden to their noose, and is doing what she can to keep her head out of it. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. #leadership

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I think it boils down to right wing anti-immigrant sentiment, and Smith having her leadership review coming up, and oh, surprise! She's beholden to their noose, and is doing what she can to keep her head out of it. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. #leadership

10% unemployment in cities certainly don't help. I would say the majority of Canadians are feeling this way with respect to immigration in the past year, at least. This sentiment isn't necessarily tied to racism, but for sure there are people that do look at it that way.

It is a pretty big change in stance of the UCP from running campaigns across Canada telling people to move here and dreaming of a Red Deer Megalopolis

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Torture

Can't have it both ways Smith.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1834347710213673125

https://twitter.com/user/status/1834359608481100045

Alright guys! Alright. I got this.

I have determined the solution to a whole host of all of our problems!

Okay...so...hear me out...

We schedule a debate.

Danielle Smith vs. Donald Trump, at the Saddledome.

Last day! Its being demolished that night. We sell tickets. All proceeds go to AHS and our Education budget.

All of the concession workers will get a text: '15 minutes to GTFO.'

Then we weld the doors shut from the outside and hit the explosives.

Win/Win/Win amirite??

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Goriders

So are you for giving more money to the government? I probably already give half. How much would be enough.

Do you really?

Your marginal rate might be 48%. However your actual tax paid income tax is likely not higher than 35% probably closer to 30%. Your property tax say 7k per year at those incomes likely only adds 2-3%. Then at most GST could add 5%.

So that comes out to around 43%. So yeah if you are up for giving half that sounds reasonable.

[Locke]

This Province needs to be run by Accountants. And....*spits on ground* an Actuary or two.

The Alberta Pension Plan is a terrible, terrible idea, for a whole host of reasons.

Gutting AHS, to a degree, is a terrible plan. You tried it with the Labs and it was nothing short of a cosmically comical disaster. Terrible idea.

At the next Election people should be required to check a box.

"Are you a Libertarian?"

If they select 'Yes' then they need to be rounded up onto rail cars and shipped...can you run a train into the ocean? We need to research this.

On the up-side, their education was likely so poor they wouldn't know what they were signing up for. We'd need a seriously iron-clad Legal Waiver of some sort.

Troutman? MBates?

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Locke

This Province needs to be run by Accountants. And....*spits on ground* an Actuary or two.

The Alberta Pension Plan is a terrible, terrible idea, for a whole host of reasons.

Gutting AHS, to a degree, is a terrible plan. You tried it with the Labs and it was nothing short of a cosmically comical disaster. Terrible idea.

At the next Election people should be required to check a box.

"Are you a Libertarian?"

If they select 'Yes' then they need to be rounded up onto rail cars and shipped...can you run a train into the ocean? We need to research this.

On the up-side, their education was likely so poor they wouldn't know what they were signing up for. We'd need a seriously iron-clad Legal Waiver of some sort.

Troutman? MBates?

I dunno, look how its turned out for Boeing.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

I dunno, look how its turned out for Boeing.

In fairness...their Executives are making a killing!

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

I dunno, look how its turned out for Boeing.

Those weren't accountants at Boeing but Jack Welsh style crony libertarian MBA types who tried to maximize executive and shareholder and gut the company.

If anything Alberta would be best run by a panel of engineers and technical experts. They probably can't communicate what they want to do very well but at least the plans will work

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Those weren't accountants at Boeing but Jack Welsh style crony libertarian MBA types who tried to maximize executive and shareholder and gut the company.

If anything Alberta would be best run by a panel of engineers and technical experts. They probably can't communicate what they want to do very well but at least the plans will work

Lol engineers making plans work out? Here get a load of this regarded engineer, Timun. Guy is dumb as a stump and talks out of his ass regularly. Knowing someone as simple as him shares a professional designation with me cheapens the work I put into it. This is his professional engineering opinion on the water main break. Idiot.

He also stupidly posted his stamps online in a sad attempt at winning at argument, man it would be a shame if one of the many versions of AI could decipher his name from his stamp. It would be even worse if this info made it to the appropriate regulatory bodies lol.

Originally Posted by timun

If my alarm didn't wake me up at 6:30 the emergency alert at 6:37 sure as hell would have. Sheesh.


Pretty sure the south side of the city, fed from the Glenmore Reservoir, would be entirely unaffected by this break, but anyway...

[puffnstuff]

That 'our shared values' is really dogwhistly