03-03-2020, 10:07 AM
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#61
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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It’s almost like hockey is a team game...
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03-03-2020, 12:26 PM
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#62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
It’s almost like hockey is a team game...
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so maybe it would be better if everyone on the "team" Gio Mangiapane, Rieder and all the coaches and trainers and scouts all get paid 1M / season.
Of course that is ridiculous. Just like saying that Gio's expected high level of play does not impact the Flames chances of success to a much larger degree than almost anyone else on the team.
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03-03-2020, 12:30 PM
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#63
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
so maybe it would be better if everyone on the "team" Gio Mangiapane, Rieder and all the coaches and trainers and scouts all get paid 1M / season.
Of course that is ridiculous. Just like saying that Gio's expected high level of play does not impact the Flames chances of success to a much larger degree than almost anyone else on the team.
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What a weird collection of players...
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03-03-2020, 12:38 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
so maybe it would be better if everyone on the "team" Gio Mangiapane, Rieder and all the coaches and trainers and scouts all get paid 1M / season.
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We agree. That would be much better.
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03-03-2020, 12:42 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
so maybe it would be better if everyone on the "team" Gio Mangiapane, Rieder and all the coaches and trainers and scouts all get paid 1M / season.
Of course that is ridiculous. Just like saying that Gio's expected high level of play does not impact the Flames chances of success to a much larger degree than almost anyone else on the team.
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Man, you truly come up with the weirdest stuff...
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03-03-2020, 12:46 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
so maybe it would be better if everyone on the "team" Gio Mangiapane, Rieder and all the coaches and trainers and scouts all get paid 1M / season.
Of course that is ridiculous. Just like saying that Gio's expected high level of play does not impact the Flames chances of success to a much larger degree than almost anyone else on the team.
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Of course he’s expected to be better than most. But no matter how good you are, you need a team to succeed. See Lindros/Eric; Dionne/Marcel; etc.
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03-03-2020, 01:18 PM
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#67
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Of course he’s expected to be better than most. But no matter how good you are, you need a team to succeed. See Lindros/Eric; Dionne/Marcel; etc.
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To add: Gretzky, multiple teams post oilers
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03-03-2020, 03:37 PM
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#68
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After Monday's games
fasten your seatbelts, it is going to be wild from here on in!
Oilers and Avalanche won in regulation
Predators lost in regulation
1. St. Louis (39-17-10) 30 RW, 88 pts--1st in the Western conference and Central Division, and 2nd overall
2. Colorado (40-18-7) 36 RW, 87 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Las Vegas (36-23-8) 28 RW, 80 pts--first in the Pacific Division
5. Edmonton (35-23-8) 30 RW, 78 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Calgary (34-26-7) 24 RW, 75 pts--third in the Pacific Division
7. Vancouver (34-25-6) 26 RW, 74 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
8. Nashville (32-25-8) 25 RW, 72 pts--fourth in the Central Division
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Winnipeg (33-28-6) 26 RW, 72 pts--fifth in the Central Division
Arizona (32-27-8) 25 RW, 72 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
Minnesota (32-26-7) 28 RW, 71 pts--sixth in the Central Division
Chicago (29-28-8) 20 RW, 66 pts--seventh in the Central Division
The California teams are too far back and the Stars are not a factor in the race right now as they are safely in third place in the Central Division with 81 points.
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03-05-2020, 06:35 AM
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#70
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After Tuesday's games
fasten your seatbelts, it is going to be wild from here on in!
Blues, Knights, Wild, Jets, and Bhawks won in regulation
Oilers won in overtime
Stars lost in overtime
Predators lost in regulation
1. St. Louis (40-17-10) 31 RW, 90 pts--1st in the Western conference and Central Division and 2nd overall
2. Colorado (40-18-7) 36 RW, 87 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Las Vegas (37-23-8) 29 RW, 82 pts--first in the Pacific Division
5. Edmonton (36-23-8) 30 RW, 80 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Calgary (34-26-7) 24 RW, 75 pts--third in the Pacific Division
7. Vancouver (34-25-6) 26 RW, 74 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
8. Winnipeg (34-28-6) 27 RW, 74 pts--fourth in the Central Division
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Minnesota (33-26-7) 29 RW, 73 pts--fifth in the Central Division
Nashville (32-26-8) 25 RW, 72 pts--sixth in the Central Division
Arizona (32-27-8) 25 RW, 72 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
Chicago (30-28-8) 21 RW, 68 pts--seventh in the Central Division
The California teams are too far back and the Stars are not a factor in the race right now as they are safely in third place in the Central Division with 82 points.
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03-05-2020, 06:49 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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After Wednesday's games
fasten your seatbelts, it is going to be wild from here on in!
Coyotes won in regulation
Flames won in overtime
Avs lost in overtime
Canucks lost in regulation
1. St. Louis (40-17-10) 31 RW, 90 pts--1st in the Western conference and Central Division and 2nd overall
2. Colorado (40-18-8) 36 RW, 88 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Las Vegas (37-23-8) 29 RW, 82 pts--first in the Pacific Division
5. Edmonton (36-23-8) 30 RW, 80 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Calgary (35-26-7) 24 RW, 77 pts--third in the Pacific Division
7. Vancouver (35-25-6) 26 RW, 74 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
8. Winnipeg (34-28-6) 27 RW, 74 pts--fourth in the Central Division
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Arizona (33-27-8) 26 RW, 74 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
Minnesota (33-26-7) 29 RW, 73 pts--fifth in the Central Division
Nashville (32-26-8) 25 RW, 72 pts--sixth in the Central Division
Chicago (30-28-8) 21 RW, 68 pts--seventh in the Central Division
The California teams are too far back and the Stars are not a factor in the race right now as they are safely in third place in the Central Division with 82 points.
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03-05-2020, 06:51 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Vancouver and Phoenix have very interesting schedules in terms of deciding the standings in the West. 13 of 15 games are against Western Conference teams with half of those against Pacific teams.
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03-05-2020, 09:38 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Flames have 77 points with 14 games left. 93 points should comfortably put them top 3 in the division. The math works out easy enough:
8 wins in 14 games = 16 points
16 + 77 = 93 points
So if you treat the next 14 games as two 7 game segments, they just need to win each segment and they're in (4 wins each).
Let the playoffs begin!
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03-05-2020, 12:54 PM
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#74
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First Line Centre
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Hadn't seen an analysis on this posted yet, but here is a look at strength of schedule remaining for all 31 teams. Obviously an important factor (though not as important as many other sports). Note this was current before the March 3rd games.
Good news to see the Flames have the second-easiest schedule remaining which, should they perform at or above expectations, will give them a confidence boost entering the playoffs.
Also, the Red Wings facing the second-toughest schedule is amazing given their horrendous season already.
By the numbers: How schedule strength might affect the NHL playoff race
https://theathletic.com/1649191/2020...-playoff-race/
Spoiler due to image size.
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03-05-2020, 01:26 PM
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#76
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GOAT!
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Explanation
Pacific playoff contenders, normalized:
VGK 82PTS, 14GR, 29RW
EDM 82PTS, 14GR, 31RW
VAN 78PTS, 14GR, 28RW
CGY 77PTS, 14GR, 24RW
Central WC threats, normalized:
WPG: 74PTS, 14GR, 27RW
MIN: 77PTS, 14GR, 31RW
NSH: 76PTS, 14GR, 27RW
ARI: 74PTS, 14GR, 26RW
Combined standings, normalized:
EDM 82PTS, 14GR, 31RW
VGK 82PTS, 14GR, 29RW
VAN 78PTS, 14GR, 28RW
MIN: 77PTS, 14GR, 31RW
CGY 77PTS, 14GR, 24RW
NSH: 76PTS, 14GR, 27RW
WPG: 74PTS, 14GR, 27RW
ARI: 74PTS, 14GR, 26RW
Last edited by FanIn80; 03-05-2020 at 01:37 PM.
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03-05-2020, 01:34 PM
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#77
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Explanation
Pacific playoff contenders, normalized:
VGK 82PTS, 14GR, 29RW
EDM 82PTS, 14GR, 31RW
VAN 82PTS, 14GR, 29RW
CGY 77PTS, 14GR, 25RW
Central WC threats, normalized:
WPG: 74PTS, 14GR, 27RW
MIN: 77PTS, 14GR, 31RW
NSH: 76PTS, 14GR, 27RW
ARI: 74PTS, 14GR, 26RW
Combined standings, normalized:
EDM 82PTS, 14GR, 31RW
VGK 82PTS, 14GR, 29RW
VAN 82PTS, 14GR, 29RW
MIN: 77PTS, 14GR, 31RW
CGY 77PTS, 14GR, 25RW
NSH: 76PTS, 14GR, 27RW
WPG: 74PTS, 14GR, 27RW
ARI: 74PTS, 14GR, 26RW
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Vancouver should be normalized to 78
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03-05-2020, 01:39 PM
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#78
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour
Vancouver should be normalized to 78
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Thanks! I messed up Calgary too.
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03-05-2020, 03:01 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by united
Hadn't seen an analysis on this posted yet, but here is a look at strength of schedule remaining for all 31 teams. Obviously an important factor (though not as important as many other sports). Note this was current before the March 3rd games.
Good news to see the Flames have the second-easiest schedule remaining which, should they perform at or above expectations, will give them a confidence boost entering the playoffs.
Also, the Red Wings facing the second-toughest schedule is amazing given their horrendous season already.
By the numbers: How schedule strength might affect the NHL playoff race
https://theathletic.com/1649191/2020...-playoff-race/
Spoiler due to image size.
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IMO late in the season these "schedule strength" predictions are worthless. Teams have so unique situations and they all react to them differently. Some "strong" teams comfortably in the playoffs start playing soft, while others fight hard for positions. Some teams on the bubble buckle under pressure while others savour it. Some teams out of the playoffs stop trying and others start playing loose and/or fight hard for their pride.
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03-05-2020, 03:12 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
Flames have 77 points with 14 games left. 93 points should comfortably put them top 3 in the division. The math works out easy enough:
8 wins in 14 games = 16 points
16 + 77 = 93 points
So if you treat the next 14 games as two 7 game segments, they just need to win each segment and they're in (4 wins each).
Let the playoffs begin!
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The Nucks would only need to go 9-6-1 to finish with 93 points, ahead of the Flames. So I don't know about 'comfortably'.
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