[News] Kris Versteeg - Seeing Surgeon Jan 22. Timeline for return should follow.

[Otto-matic]

@Kristen_Odland
Just a reminder about Kris Versteeg (recovering from hip surgery). He doesn't even see the surgeon until Jan. 22. From there, he'll know when he can start skating and can target a return. It's been about six weeks since his surgery

With it being a slow week, here's a bit of news on Versteeg. Should be getting a timeline soon of his return.

[joejoe3]

Thanks for the update, but kind of confusing...

so he's had surgery already six weeks ago, and revisiting the surgeon on Jan.22 to be evaluated on when he can start skating?

At least that's how I interrupt it... if so, good news.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

...so he's had surgery already six weeks ago, and revisiting the surgeon on Jan.22 to be evaluated on when he can start skating?

Yes. That is correct.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

Thanks for the update, but kind of confusing...

so he's had surgery already six weeks ago, and revisiting the surgeon on Jan.22 to be evaluated on when he can start skating?

At least that's how I interrupt it... if so, good news.

That's how I'm reading it it. Hopefully we see him back during the stretch run.

[Finger Cookin]

It would be nice to have him back as a depth option for the playoffs.

[EVERLAST]

As much as I want Versteeg to be healthy I hope when he is back that we keep Mangiapane up if he's here still and scratch Stajan or another weaker link so he can continue playing.
We need to keep the power play and the PK running at a high level.

[JohnnyTitan]

I know the NHL Trade Deadline is Feb 26th.

After that date, isn't the roster limit eliminated?

So there would be no problem having Mangiapane up and keeping Versteeg as a "Depth" forward. Right?

[Buff]

Interrupt?

[corporatejay]

any update on Frolik?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by JohnnyTitan

I know the NHL Trade Deadline is Feb 26th.

After that date, isn't the roster limit eliminated?

So there would be no problem having Mangiapane up and keeping Versteeg as a "Depth" forward. Right?

Yes. The 23 man roster limit is lifted after the trade deadline. Teams still have to be cap compliant though.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

It would be nice to have him back as a depth option for the playoffs.

Would be good to have him back on the PP as well, as it really seems to click with him.

[JohnnyTitan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

. Teams still have to be cap compliant though.

OK - so do I have this right?

If the Flames carry $1M in cap space for 2/3 of the season...they can essentially go over-the-cap by $2M for the last 1/3?

Isn't the calculation done on a per-day basis so that each day you're under you "Inventory" that space to blow at the end of the season (or at the trade deadline).

Of course -> it'd be nice to not have an "Overage" due to bonuses like last year...but we don't have that many bonuses due. (Janko / Tkatchuk = ~$1.5M)

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by JohnnyTitan

OK - so do I have this right?

If the Flames carry $1M in cap space for 2/3 of the season...they can essentially go over-the-cap by $2M for the last 1/3?

Isn't the calculation done on a per-day basis so that each day you're under you "Inventory" that space to blow at the end of the season (or at the trade deadline).

I don't think saying "essentially" go over the cap is the right term.
If the Flames do have cap space at the deadline, the can acquire player(s) with a much higher cap hits then space available because cap space stays static (or "banked") and how much is still owed to the player becomes smaller as the season is payed out.

Of course -> it'd be nice to not have an "Overage" due to bonuses like last year...but we don't have that many bonuses due. (Janko / Tkatchuk = ~$1.5M)

Don't forget the $350k in bonuses the Flames have already paid to Jagr for games played.

[shadowlord]

I'm guessing that if Versteeg comes back, he'd get put back on the PP. What's our feeling like of having Versteeg replace Jankowski or Backlund on that first PP unit? Would the PP be better or worse?

[Flamesm]

Does having versteeg and jagr on ir also reduce their cap hit from the days off?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Flamesm

Does having versteeg and jagr on ir also reduce their cap hit from the days off?

IR and LTIR do not reduce cap hit in any shape or form. Any player on IR or LTIR counts at full cap hit.

IR does not effect cap hit or salary cap in any way. It's only purpose is to allow a team to not count an injured player to the 23 man roster limit. For example, the Flames placed Jagr on IR to allow Lomberg to join the NHL roster.

Putting a player on LTIR, also does not effect the cap hit of the player in any way. All it does is allow the team to exceed the salary cap by the cap hit of the player(s) on LTIR. It is only useful if the team is at or near the salary cap and needs space to replace an injured player. The Flames currently have no need of LTIR as they are below the salary cap and their replacement players will not push them over.

[Locke]

I wonder if Kris Versteeg chirps the Surgeon while hes under anesthetic?

"You call that an incision? I've cut people better than that with my skates....."

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by Buff

Interrupt?

meant to say "interpret", stupid iphone autocorrect

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

As much as I want Versteeg to be healthy I hope when he is back that we keep Mangiapane up if he's here still and scratch Stajan or another weaker link so he can continue playing.
We need to keep the power play and the PK running at a high level.

Stajan has been a plus/even player for 22 consecutive games. It’s not like he’s hurting the team in any way. Yes, young legs are always a welcome addition, but this team doesn’t ring off seven straight victories with a team of rookies in the lineup.

Stajan plays a role and he plays it well. I wish people would stop incessantly complaining about him as if he’s some anchor the team is having to drag around. If the Flames are going to challenge for a championship, they are going to need players like Matt Stajan, both on and off the ice.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

I'm guessing that if Versteeg comes back, he'd get put back on the PP. What's our feeling like of having Versteeg replace Jankowski or Backlund on that first PP unit? Would the PP be better or worse?

The PP was top 10 when he went out...if healthy he is back on the first unit.