Does Giordano get suspended for the hit on Aho? Update:No hearing scheduled - Per NHL

[Corral]

Yeah OK I suppose I should have spelled it out a bit more for many of you here re the Kariya reference. Of course the two incidents are not the same - did I say that? No - the point was those sort of career ending hits will continue to be a part of the game until head shots are completely prohibited. And so from time to time, a smallish - playmaker will have his career ended early.

When Johnny Gaudreau gets a shoulder into the head because his head is level with most shoulders in the league - maybe then some of you will get the point.

As for drive by comments - some of us work for a living and can't monitor CP minute by minute.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Corral

When Johnny Gaudreau gets a shoulder into the head because his head is level with most shoulders in the league - maybe then some of you will get the point.

I said it before and I'll say it again: Gaudreau is one of the best players in the NHL at *not* doing that. He is always hyper aware of who's around him, almost never looks down at the puck and is constantly pivoting away from oncoming players will full awareness of where they are.

If he ever makes a play like that, he'd be at fault just like Aho was... because for what feels like the 100th time: this was a direct result of his not looking where he was going and changing angles at the last second.

Just about everything you've said about this incident has been patently false. When someone refutes one of your points you come back with nothing but hyperbole in a lecturing tone.. just like the awful example of trying to assert it was just like a predatory hit.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

I said it before and I'll say it again: Gaudreau is one of the best players in the NHL at *not* doing that. He is always hyper aware of who's around him, almost never looks down at the puck and is constantly pivoting away from oncoming players will full awareness of where they are.

If he ever makes a play like that, he'd be at fault just like Aho was... because for what feels like the 100th time: this was a direct result of his not looking where he was going and changing angles at the last second.

Just about everything you've said about this incident has been patently false. When someone refutes one of your points you come back with nothing but hyperbole in a lecturing tone.. just like the awful example of trying to assert it was just like a predatory hit.

One of those rare times I agree with you, but this says it all.

[dino7c]

League is biased in favor of the Flames...

Said no one ever

Seriously the league throws the book at the Flames every chance they get...the fact that they let Gio off the hook here tells you all you need to know

Really there is no debate, some people just can't admit when they were wrong

[SebC]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Cassie (though not a defender) got it pretty much right on the broadcast last night.

Yeah, not a defender, and I think she was evaluating it in the context of men's hockey. Which was not what I was interested in.

Originally Posted by VilleN

Not trying to stir any ####, but what would be the relevance of that?

Because if Aho still gets hit to the head doing what he did, and I want an expert opinion on that, then one must surely consider it unavoidable.

It would be nice to have a way to make these sorts of injuries less severe/frequent without ripping the soul out of the game, but I can't think of how to do that. For instance, if you were permitted to grab a guy when delivering a big hit to prevent him from hitting the ice / boards, maybe that would prevent injuries, but I don't see how you could allow that.

[dino7c]

If they didn't wear skates nobody would get cut, without sticks nobody would get slashed, pucks are too hard they take out teeth and break faces.

[Roof-Daddy]

Luckily the 5 minute major and loss of Gio didn't cost the Flames the game yesterday. The reffing in this league is a disgrace. Thankfully the league didn't "hey refs, hold my beer!" this one like I fully expected they would.

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by SebC

Yeah, not a defender, and I think she was evaluating it in the context of men's hockey. Which was not what I was interested in.

Because if Aho still gets hit to the head doing what he did, and I want an expert opinion on that, then one must surely consider it unavoidable.

It would be nice to have a way to make these sorts of injuries less severe/frequent without ripping the soul out of the game, but I can't think of how to do that. For instance, if you were permitted to grab a guy when delivering a big hit to prevent him from hitting the ice / boards, maybe that would prevent injuries, but I don't see how you could allow that.

Again, not trying to be a dick or anything here, but womens hockey is only relevant here in the event some people believed Gio should defend in the same manner as the rules in female hockey, a stick check or a rub out of the body. However, I see nothing wrong with a Dman hitting to hurt and to intimidate in a play like this. I love the way Gio delivered his check. Unfortunate for the head shot, however Gio in now way was intent on giving a head shot. A big crushing hit, sure, was his intent. As it should be.

Bowmeester, Lidstrom or Leetch would use an active stick for a play like this, whereas Hamonic, Gio or Weber would deliver a check. Every defender is different in how they defend. I want and am ok with both types of players. An intimidating hit can be a glorious check to watch and give. If its a legal hit and one that is done to hurt at the same time, that is hockey, imo.

If Johnny had his head down and took a hit to the head, so be it. Its a lesson every person that has played some semblance of hockey knows is a no no, never look down at the puck for the chance of getting creamed.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Women's hockey is a non contact sport? A lot of people say Giordano could not have gotten out of the way so how would a women, in a non contact sport have played that situation? Seems pretty straight forward no?

I've played non contact men's hockey and accidentally on purpose getting in someone's way to knock them on their ass is an art form.

Thanks for clarifying, I thought he was referring to it in the context of gender and not contact vs. non-contact sports. The former I don't find relevant, however the latter is.

But no thanks for the condescending way in which you framed your answer. It wasn't straight forward to me, otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question.

[GioforPM]

Lots of salt on HF about this. More from Duck fans than Canes fans though.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Lots of salt on HF about this. More from Duck fans than Canes fans though.

I’ve been battling it out with a few Ducks fans on Twitter. It’s actually hilarious how upset they are that Gio got nothing. They act like he’s a goon and has a history of targeting other guys knees. This stemming from the incidental contact knee on knee with Cam Fowler last season.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I’ve been battling it out with a few Ducks fans on Twitter. It’s actually hilarious how upset they are that Gio got nothing. They act like he’s a goon and has a history of targeting other guys knees. This stemming from the incidental contact knee on knee with Cam Fowler last season.

In fairness though, the fans in Anaheim aren't used to seeing hard hitting hockey, and dirty players.

They've been watching perennial Lady Byng candidates Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf for years now. It's easy to see how they'd be upset at a clean but very hard hit.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I’ve been battling it out with a few Ducks fans on Twitter. It’s actually hilarious how upset they are that Gio got nothing. They act like he’s a goon and has a history of targeting other guys knees. This stemming from the incidental contact knee on knee with Cam Fowler last season.

Ducks have some of the dirtiest d*****bags in hockey on their roster, and they're complaining about other teams' players being goons? That's hilarious.

[manwiches]

Brent Krahn's take on the hit is hilarious. He's on the Big Show right now, and was asked about it

Summing it up: Good for Gio! Aho is disrespectful for even thinking he can pull a move like that off. Hope he's okay, but he better learn his lesson, and I'm happy he got killed.

I completely agree. haha.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by manwiches

Brent Krahn's take on the hit is hilarious. He's on the Big Show right now, and was asked about it

Summing it up: Good for Gio! Aho is disrespectful for even thinking he can pull a move like that off. Hope he's okay, but he better learn his lesson, and I'm happy he got killed.

I completely agree. haha.

Okay...I dont agree with all of that.

I dont want to see the kid get hurt, but pulling that move in front of an NHL Veteran was an unwise decision.

I'd be perfectly happy if he'd gotten smoked and gotten right back up, then I'd agree that that was a lesson learned, I dont want him to be hurt though because we should all remember that we owe the Carolina Hurricanes a sincere debt of gratitude.