[News] Moderna's coronavirus vaccine is 94.5% effective

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Interesting how Pfizer now says its vaccine is now 95% as well after the Moderna news.

https://twitter.com/sharknado523/sta...47830946779140

[getbak]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Does this one require multiple boosters like the reported pfizer vaccine?

They are both 2-shot vaccines. With Pfizer's, the second shot will be administered 3 weeks after the first. With Moderna's, it will be 4 weeks.

[Canada 02]

Pfizers preliminary numbers had 94 confirmed cases of Covid among the 44000 people enrolled in the trial. Eight received the vaccine, the other 86 recieved the placebo; thus ~90% effective. The new numbers are now 170 confirmed cases, still 8 were vaccinated, and the remaining 162 received the placebo, this now reporting 95% effective.

Moderna had 15000 vaccinated and 15000 with the placebo. At the time of reporting, 5 vaccinated got Covid and 90 placebo group got covid. This the 94.4% effectiveness

both numbers will likely continue to change before the final results of the study are published

[Jethro Choicebro]

All the reports certainly suggest they have simply just refined the effective rate as the data was analyzed.

Nov 9 - (CNN)Drugmaker Pfizer said Monday an early look at data from its coronavirus vaccine shows it is more than 90% effective -- a much better than expected efficacy if the trend continues.

Nov 18 - (CNN)A final analysis of the Phase 3 trial of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine shows it was 95% effective in preventing infections, even in older adults, and caused no serious safety concerns, the company said Wednesday.


Perhaps could question why they didnt just keep quiet until the final analysis was done.... they knew Moderna was close to releasing results? CEO wanting to prop share price before the stock sale went through? Were excited about the reults and wanted to share the joy asap? Really as long as it works and they can get it into the wild quickly...who cares

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Jethro Choicebro

All the reports certainly suggest they have simply just refined the effective rate as the data was analyzed.

Nov 9 - (CNN)Drugmaker Pfizer said Monday an early look at data from its coronavirus vaccine shows it is more than 90% effective -- a much better than expected efficacy if the trend continues.

Nov 18 - (CNN)A final analysis of the Phase 3 trial of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine shows it was 95% effective in preventing infections, even in older adults, and caused no serious safety concerns, the company said Wednesday.


Perhaps could question why they didnt just keep quiet until the final analysis was done.... they knew Moderna was close to releasing results? CEO wanting to prop share price before the stock sale went through? Were excited about the reults and wanted to share the joy asap? Really as long as it works and they can get it into the wild quickly...who cares

It's my understanding that once they had a certain number of positive cases, they were allowed to release the results at that time. Pfizer hit the target first, and shortly after Moderna did, and released their numbers. This is all following a highly regulated process, and anyone looking for gotchas in it should probably investigate the process before putting out conjecture and tightening their tinfoil hat.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

The efficacy rate for both *should* be the same because they use a similar technology. The Pfizer CEO said as much when they made their first announcement that he expected the other vaccines would come in around the 90% range as well.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by getbak

They are both 2-shot vaccines. With Pfizer's, the second shot will be administered 3 weeks after the first. With Moderna's, it will be 4 weeks.

I also heard rumblings that it is likely these shots will need to be taken annually. Like a flue vaccine for example.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I also heard rumblings that it is likely these shots will need to be taken annually. Like a flue vaccine for example.

That was the initial thought, but studies are now pointing more towards immunity lasting for years (or maybe even decades) for a good portion of the population:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/h...-immunity.html

[Sluggo]

I fear many will take this news as 'go ahead and do the holidays like you would do on any other year' and come late January their wont be nearly enough vaccine doses nor body bags.

[Firebot]

The reason why a flu vaccine is needed every year is because influenza mutates very frequently with multitude of strands different from each other. The vaccine is actually a mix of different strands most probable to be seen during the season.

Some years they have it right and the flu season is markedly mild for those who did get the vaccine some years they miss the dominant strand like last year. That's why you can still get the flu despite getting the vaccine, sometimes you just get lucky and don't get the flu even without a vaccine (maybe you were immune to that particular strand).

https://www.livescience.com/flu-shot...fluenza-b.html

When people were claiming to have had a major illness in late November and December on forums, yes it could have been covid, but it most likely was this influenza strand not noticed.

Covid-19 has a few strands now, but all are close enough to each other. The Mink one was feared to be too different and be a strand that the vaccine would not capture, but it was contained.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I also heard rumblings that it is likely these shots will need to be taken annually. Like a flue vaccine for example.

If you have to get it yearly, even for a year or two until they come up wtih something better, is that so bad? Right now I'm happy with that as long as it means less restrictions.

[Robo]

Ugh as someone who has a phobia of needles I really wish they would find some other way to administer vaccines

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Robo

Ugh as someone who has a phobia of needles I really wish they would find some other way to administer vaccines

Extra large suppository

[photon]

As long as it's not delivered by tarantula bite I'm fine.

Maybe genetically engineered tarantulas for those with needle phobias.

[zackhogan1994]

What about Canada? I want this here and for this to be done with.

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[Locke]

Originally Posted by zackhogan1994

What about Canada? I want this here and for this to be done with.

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"So say we all..."

Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first.

[JD]

Originally Posted by photon

As long as it's not delivered by tarantula bite I'm fine.

Maybe genetically engineered tarantulas for those with needle phobias.

No thanks for that visual. Now I'll have the heebie jeebies for the rest of the day.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I also heard rumblings that it is likely these shots will need to be taken annually. Like a flue vaccine for example.

That's assuming COVID will still be around, I doubt anyone knows if it will mutate enough to stay alive until we kill off the first strand.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by photon

As long as it's not delivered by tarantula bite I'm fine.

Maybe genetically engineered tarantulas for those with needle phobias.

Side effects include...

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Robo

Ugh as someone who has a phobia of needles I really wish they would find some other way to administer vaccines

There are some COVID vaccines in production which are inhaled instead but they're far behind the leaders which are all injected.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...ronavirus.html