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Old 07-17-2013, 09:08 AM   #401
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LOL Oh Jenny you so silly..

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And she is also reversing her initial position that the MMR shots caused Evan’s autism. Jenny now says she wants vaccinations better researched — rather than getting rid of them altogether, as she previously promoted. And though her son may never have had autism, Jenny insists, “I’ll continue to be the voice” of the disorder.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2010/02/26/...er-had-autism/
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #402
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Believe me - I hate these shows with a passion. Apart from the issue of objective right/wrong, there is the right of free speech.

I don't know how we can ever avoid bad information. What we really need to do is better train people in critical thinking.

Persons are smart, people are dumb.

As mentioned by other posters above, free speech doesn't allow for the spreading of incorrect/hurtful information.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:23 AM   #403
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:10 PM   #404
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http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/17...rease-in-cases

Measles on the rise in Canada. All of 30 cases but that's 5x the normal number.

I'm curious how many of the cases have anti-vaccination goofballs for parents.
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I'm curious how many of the cases have anti-vaccination goofballs for parents.
Depends, how many were infants too young for vaccination (you know, the real victims of anti-vaxxers)?
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:05 PM   #406
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http://www.the-scientist.com/?articl...nti-Vax-Haven/

Though England had almost declared measles eliminated, the number of infections in 2013 is up 64% compared to 2012. Health officials are blaming a lack of vaccination for the outbreak of this preventable disease.

Edit: Here's another article by the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22277186

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Before vaccination there were hundreds of thousands of cases in epidemic years, but the disease was effectively eradicated in the UK after the MMR vaccine was introduced.
However, in 2012 there were more than 2,000 cases of measles in England and Wales - the highest figures for two decades.

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Though England had almost declared measles eliminated, the number of infections in 2013 is up 64% compared to 2012. Health officials are blaming Playboy for the outbreak of this preventable disease.

Edit: Here's another article by the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22277186
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http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/experts...view-1.1380763

Plenty of Anti-vax comments on the bottom of this article.
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:30 PM   #409
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Argument over!
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeles...causes-autism/
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Confirmed by what? An alarmist blog whose #3 story for the week is "Lady Gaga, Satanism, & The Illuminati"?

Lol #4 is "Obamacare, RFID Chips, and 666".
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:47 PM   #411
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My SIL posted this bullpucky article last week. I typically just leave her to her Jerry Fletcherism but not this time, and refuted it. She wasn't happy about that, I don't think, because she deleted it. I'm just glad that crap is off her page, at the very least.
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How is the argument over? Wakefield has never been able to replicate the results from his paper, he even admitted that he couldn't prove it. His original report proving a link between vaccines and autism is considered to be one of the most dishonest and fraudulent research reports ever written. Well since the Nazi doctors released a report that showed causation between a big honking nose and being Jewish (self Godwin yo)

When your listed as the worst doctor in 2011 your doing something wrong.

What was interesting was Wakefield tried to patent his own measles vaccine before he released his paper.

The guys a brilliant fraud artist in the same vein of a lot of conspiracy theorists that pray on the dumb, the scared and the vulnerable to make a small fortune in books and speaking tours and personal visits.

BTW that is my new favorite site, I knew Lady Gaga was the spawn of Satan sent to earth to destroy our youth with ear destroying music that when played backwards made your kids want to commit acts of wanton beast love making. Now I have the proof.
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Confirmed by what? An alarmist blog whose #3 story for the week is "Lady Gaga, Satanism, & The Illuminati"?

Lol #4 is "Obamacare, RFID Chips, and 666".
And what do those stories have to do with a court ruling? Absolutely nothing.
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And what do those stories have to do with a court ruling? Absolutely nothing.
Why did you ask a question if you were just going to go out and answer it?

Rude.
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Maybe I'm blind but I don't see a link to anything about any court linking anything to anyone. Its just a website for bat#### crazy people to spew their bat#### crazy thoughts, but I don't see any actual proof of their claims that courts have acknowledged vaccines cause autism. Then again most people who go to those types of websites don't understand that funky ass concept of "facts" being used to support claims.
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Ya... I was just trolling as I keep seeing this article/link pop up on Facebook.

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And what do those stories have to do with a court ruling? Absolutely nothing.
Credibility of the Source.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:04 PM   #418
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And what do those stories have to do with a court ruling? Absolutely nothing.
Seriously? Do I have to explain the difference in civil law suits vs the scientific method?

Italy arrested and charged vulconologists for not predicting a quake, does this give you pause to question the whole science behind this as well??
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I'm saddened to see many of my chiropractic brethren use this story as proof that vaccines cause autism...for so many reasons. I can't believe they are still clinging to this old-world thinking. I can't believe they don't understand data and how to interpret it. I can't believe they are willing to follow a disgraced Wakefield simply because it fits their paradigm. I can't believe they are willing to cling to philosophy over study after study that has been thoroughly peer reviewed.

In short, I'm saddened that they are fanatics.
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...and not that I have to tell anyone here since you all seem like sane, rational people, but if you ever hear a chiropractor ranting against vaccines or posting anything on their site/social media saying the same.....Run! Run as far away from them as you can. They are lunatics.
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