NCAA Tournament (formerly Hockey East Playoffs)

[Hockey]

UML and BU in the HE finals just seems weird.

[jschick88]

#DeKeyserWatch: If Notre Dame beats Ohio State in today's CCHA semifinal, I believe that will mathematically end WMU's season. Then it's on.

https://twitter.com/chrismpeters

Pretty sure the Red Wings already have a jersey with his name. I would be shocked if he didn't sign with them.

[devo22]

so that ends Providence's season, but BC will still play the national tournament, correct?

[Hockey]

Yes BC will still move on and PC will be done.

[devo22]

I wonder if they'll sign Tim Schaller now, he looked good at the prospect camp last year and he was named HE's best defensive forward this year. Maybe an AHL deal for the rest of the year, just like Seigo?

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by devo22

I wonder if they'll sign Tim Schaller now, he looked good at the prospect camp last year and he was named HE's best defensive forward this year. Maybe an AHL deal for the rest of the year, just like Seigo?

I'd like to see it. Found a way to watch a few of the Providence games online, and besides Gillies, he was always the guy I found most impressed by. Solid player without many holes in his game. He won't ever be an impact player in the NHL by any stretch but if he keeps developing he could end up being a bottom 6 player if everything goes his way.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Mark me down for wanting to see Schaller in a Heat uniform. While the Heat are overrun with centres right now, it wouldn't hurt to see what he can do.

[Roof-Daddy]

What's the deal with Schaller anyways?

I see he's listed as forward and D-man on eliteprospects.

He plays center mostly right?

He has good size.

Why did his point totals drop so much this season?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

What's the deal with Schaller anyways?

I see he's listed as forward and D-man on eliteprospects.

He plays center mostly right?

He has good size.

Why did his point totals drop so much this season?

I believe he was Providence's top centre and captain this season. AFAIK, he never played D.

I suspect he was invited to the Flames camp to get into Janko's ear about going to PC this year, so he deserves at least a look in Abbotsford for that.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by getbak

I believe he was Providence's top centre and captain this season. AFAIK, he never played D.

I suspect he was invited to the Flames camp to get into Janko's ear about going to PC this year, so he deserves at least a look in Abbotsford for that.

Yeah, it's weird to see that on EP, because it's the first I've heard of it at all.

Anyways, big body, good defensively, skates well from what I've heard, a center.....wouldn't hurt at all to give him a look.

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by getbak

I believe he was Providence's top centre and captain this season. AFAIK, he never played D.

I suspect he was invited to the Flames camp to get into Janko's ear about going to PC this year, so he deserves at least a look in Abbotsford for that.

According to Jankowski's twitter, Schaller was also his roommate on the road this year.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

According to Jankowski's twitter, Schaller was also his roommate on the road this year.

He also roomed with Schaller at Flames development camp. Schaller's a pretty good egg.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Freeway

He also roomed with Schaller at Flames development camp. Schaller's a pretty good egg.

If he is indeed a "good egg", is a natural leader and combine that with being 6'2, 210, I would give him a chance at a AHL deal at the very least.

Is he the kind of guy you risk a 3 year ELC on as he is only 22?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Updated for the NCAA tournament, and road to the Frozen Four.

Last night (March 24th) The NCAA released the brackets for the road the the Frozen 4.

East Regional
1. Quinnipac v. 4. Canisius - Mar 30th 3:30pm
2. Boston College v. 3. Union - Mar 30th 7:00pm
Regional Championship - Mar 31st 4:30pm

Midwest Regional
1. Notre Dame v. 4. St. Cloud State - Mar 30th 11:30am
2. Miami (Ohio) v. 3. Minnesota State (Mankato) - Mar 30th 3:00pm
Regional Championship - Mar 31st 2:00pm

Northeast Regional
1. UMass-Lowell v. 4. Wisconsin - Mar 29th 2:30pm
2. New Hampshire v. 3. Denver - Mar 29th 6:00pm
Regional Championship - Mar 30th 4:30pm

West Regional
1. Minnesota v. 4. Yale - Mar 29 12:00pm
2. North Dakota v. 3 Niagra - 3:30pm
Regional Championship - Mar 30th 2:00pm

Frozen Four:

Winner of East Regional vs. Midwest Regional - April 11th
Winner of Northeast Regional vs. West Regional - April 11th

Updated the topic and OP for the NCAA tournament

Looks like Notre Dame has the best chance to advance to the Frozen Four of all teams with Flames prospects, Wisconsin has their hands full in round 1 and BC will have to beat the top rated Quinnipac in the Regional Championship to advance to the Frozen Four. That said Go Eagles! Go Badgers! and Go Irish!

I also have to say it really burns me that UNH is a #2 seed in the regionals and Providence didn't even get an at large berth, the NCAA needs to find a better way to prevent garbage like this. Providence proved they could beat a top 2 seed in a best of 3, they deserve a chance.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Updated the topic and OP for the NCAA tournament

Looks like Notre Dame has the best chance to advance to the Frozen Four of all teams with Flames prospects, Wisconsin has their hands full in round 1 and BC will have to beat the top rated Quinnipac in the Regional Championship to advance to the Frozen Four. That said Go Eagles! Go Badgers! and Go Irish!

I also have to say it really burns me that UNH is a #2 seed in the regionals and Providence didn't even get an at large berth, the NCAA needs to find a better way to prevent garbage like this. Providence proved they could beat a top 2 seed in a best of 3, they deserve a chance.

UNH was a top 10 team pretty much all year and has the resume to deserve a 2 seed in the tournament. Providence simply did not have the resume to get in. The pairwise rankings, which takes into account most of the selection criteria and tries to fairly compare teams, has Providence tied for 22nd. Providence went 7-11-4 against "Teams Under Consideration" (basically potential tournament teams) while Yale, who was the lowest at large, went 10-10-3. There's nothing garbage about it, this is a tournament that has to select teams from a number of different leagues, you can't put in teams based off of a single playoff series.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by valo403

UNH was a top 10 team pretty much all year and has the resume to deserve a 2 seed in the tournament. Providence simply did not have the resume to get in. The pairwise rankings, which takes into account most of the selection criteria and tries to fairly compare teams, has Providence tied for 22nd. Providence went 7-11-4 against "Teams Under Consideration" (basically potential tournament teams) while Yale, who was the lowest at large, went 10-10-3. There's nothing garbage about it, this is a tournament that has to select teams from a number of different leagues, you can't put in teams based off of a single playoff series.

Providence was 17th in the pairwise rankings and dropped 6 spots after beating UNH in the best of 3. I'm sorry but that is shady as ####.

Also what is the point of a playoff if you can lose and still advance? It's stupid.

They need to get their crap together and have 4 conferences rather than 5 and keep it simple and have the 4 conference champions meet in the frozen 4

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Providence was 17th in the pairwise rankings and dropped 6 spots after beating UNH in the best of 3. I'm sorry but that is shady as ####.

Also what is the point of a playoff if you can lose and still advance? It's stupid.

They need to get their crap together and have 4 conferences rather than 5 and keep it simple and have the 4 conference champions meet in the frozen 4

Huh? The Hockey East Playoffs and the Frozen Four are not related. The only tie between the conference tournaments and the Frozen Four is that conference winners get auto-bids.

And yeah, I'm sure that the pair wise computer generated results were manipulated to drop Providence Couldn't possibly be the result of other games or anything. Also, Providence was 22nd in the final pairwise rankings, not 17th.

I hate complaints like this. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how college hockey even works. The NCAA doesn't dictate conference alignments, it sets up and selects a post season tournament. Providence did not have the resume to bump anyone out of the field, plain and simple. Winning one series doesn't change that.

Btw: If you go by the KRACH ranking which some people prefer Providence is still 4 spots back of Yale, who took the last at large seed.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by valo403

Huh? The Hockey East Playoffs and the Frozen Four are not related. The only tie between the conference tournaments and the Frozen Four is that conference winners get auto-bids.

And yeah, I'm sure that the pair wise computer generated results were manipulated to drop Providence Couldn't possibly be the result of other games or anything. Also, Providence was 22nd in the final pairwise rankings, not 17th.

I hate complaints like this. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how college hockey even works. The NCAA doesn't dictate conference alignments, it sets up and selects a post season tournament. Providence did not have the resume to bump anyone out of the field, plain and simple. Winning one series doesn't change that.

Btw: If you go by the KRACH ranking which some people prefer Providence is still 4 spots back of Yale, who took the last at large seed.

I understand how college hockey works. I am saying it's ####ing stupid how its set up. It is flawed, yes saying it was "shady" was the wrong choice of words because I know its not some kind of conspiracy. But NCAA rankings and tournament/bowl game selections have always been deeply flawed in every sport.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I understand how college hockey works. I am saying it's ####ing stupid how its set up. It is flawed, yes saying it was "shady" was the wrong choice of words because I know its not some kind of conspiracy. But NCAA rankings and tournament/bowl game selections have always been deeply flawed in every sport.

I don't think there's any non-biased person out there who would argue that Providence deserved a spot more than Yale, and that's who they were competing with, not UNH.

The fact of the matter is that the Frozen Four is about your entire body of work, the selection is not a seeded playoff nor should it be, it's simply impossible to do that with the nature of the various leagues. Sure it would be great to have 4 conferences of equal strength that played down to the title, but that's not reality and it never will be reality so there's really no point discussing it as anything more than a what if scenario.

[moon]

Originally Posted by valo403

UNH was a top 10 team pretty much all year and has the resume to deserve a 2 seed in the tournament. Providence simply did not have the resume to get in. The pairwise rankings, which takes into account most of the selection criteria and tries to fairly compare teams, has Providence tied for 22nd. Providence went 7-11-4 against "Teams Under Consideration" (basically potential tournament teams) while Yale, who was the lowest at large, went 10-10-3. There's nothing garbage about it, this is a tournament that has to select teams from a number of different leagues, you can't put in teams based off of a single playoff series.

Ya but UNH doesn't have two Flames draft picks on it so your logic is meaningless.