Hm if I see a used 3090 on Facebook with "Thermal pads and CPU paste professionally replaced." for $1000 I think I can assume it was a mining GPU.
EDIT: Mind you if they did that then maybe they're actually taking care of the card, maybe I should ask them if they undervolted it and what kind of mining setup they had.
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Hm if I see a used 3090 on Facebook with "Thermal pads and CPU paste professionally replaced." for $1000 I think I can assume it was a mining GPU.
EDIT: Mind you if they did that then maybe they're actually taking care of the card, maybe I should ask them if they undervolted it and what kind of mining setup they had.
It's exactly that. GDDR6X cards have to have the thermal pads replaced or they can't mine at reasonable speeds without burning out. With a proper replacement it will run at a very good temp (and actually games at much lower temp than it would without).
You can force a miner to send you a screenshot of the card with a 10 minute OCCT VRAM test if you want to confirm there's no VRAM issues from it being mined on.
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Moore's Law YouTube was saying that they may delay the 4000 series until Nov/Dec due to a large supply of 3000 cards... I'm not in a rush, even if I bought a 4K monitor I can still game at 1440p for a while, might be worth waiting for new and used card prices to drop even further.
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Anyone have any recommendations for a good motherboard for a gaming PC? Probably looking to put a Ryzen 5600x in it, and I definitely want wifi support. Other than that not really sure what to look for.
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Anyone have any recommendations for a good motherboard for a gaming PC? Probably looking to put a Ryzen 5600x in it, and I definitely want wifi support. Other than that not really sure what to look for.
I went with an ASUS TUF Z690 PLUS and its phenomenal.
However its DDR4 so if you're building for DDR5 you'll have to look elsewhere.
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I went with Gigabyte for my 5900X and it's been mostly ok, there does seem to be some flakyness around USB as sometimes I'll get random disconnects of USB devices even after a fresh Windows install, but I guess I can't say for sure that it's due to the motherboard.
Have always had good success with ASUS
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Pretty much. You can find performance benchmarks for motherboards but they're going to be within the margin of error everything else being equal unless the motherboard is cheating (which has happened).
There's other differences like overclock better, deliver cleaner power, run cooler, and of course the various features, but yeah a $1000 motherboard isn't going to be significantly faster than a $250 one at stock speeds.
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So... is now the time to build something? 3080s seem to be around 1K, 3070s less than that? Ryzen 9 5900x $500 , or Ryzen 7 5800x $350? Seems borderline reasonable for the moment, I feel like everyone is waiting for the 4000 series stuff.
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Anyone know some way of tracking what services are meddling with specific software processes? Thinking something that says “software X is being tracked / audited by windows defender, bitlocker, etc. I have a work PC built for large data conversations but big brother has added so many security services, it’s painful but I need to prove it’s actually due to their security software. I can see them running in the task manager service list, but I’d like to figure out which ones are directly impacting the conversion process. I’m guessing something is auditing every transaction the program makes, especially the read / write between drives.
So... is now the time to build something? 3080s seem to be around 1K, 3070s less than that? Ryzen 9 5900x $500 , or Ryzen 7 5800x $350? Seems borderline reasonable for the moment, I feel like everyone is waiting for the 4000 series stuff.
I figure I might as well wait. 4000 series is just around the corner and my 1080 is still chugging along. There's also really nothing I want to play on PC that the 1080 can't handle either, since I'm doing so much more gaming with the XSX/PS5. I think my plan will be to upgrade in a couple of years when the 4000 series stock is stable (knock on wood). Hopefully crypto doesn't make a comeback anytime soon
I feel like everyone is waiting for the 4000 series stuff.
Yeah, I'm seeing more 3080s available and it's tempting but I think I'm going to wait and see how the 4000 series compares. I was considering building a new rig last Black Friday and just keep my old card until I got a 3080 or 4000 series card but didn't do enough research on what parts I should get and was on the fence on whether I should move from Intel to AMD.
There's so many of them available, it is sooooo tempting.
The new Samsung Neo G8 32" monitor looks really good, if it was flat I'd probably order one sight unseen. Not a fan of the curve, but the rest of the monitor is impressive.
I've never had a VA panel monitor, stuck to IPS since my first LCDs, but all the reviews are really impressive.
I'd look at the QD-OLED monitors but I don't want wide screen and I've heard that the sub-pixel pattern is not great for text rendering.
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In other words, don't buy local used because !used! components are overpriced in calgary. Wait for ebay prices to drop if looking at higher than 3070. Apparently there's a vast amount of miner's in asia wanting to dump cards in north america so waiting may be the value play.
In regards to processors:
unless you have specific workloads, 8-10 year old processors will probably work. Nothing new for VR so anything that came out circa 2015-2016 is still usable.
Otherwise, for AMD 5800x3d is last hurrah for AM4, and waiting on Zen 4 to come out Q4, everything is shifting over to DDR5, as like everything else prices have come down, so it may make sense in either a capacity standpoint or maybe that one specific function that it's faster than ddr4 in.
Considering this build, but couple questions I'd love everyone's input on...
1. Recommend me a motherboard that'll work in this configuration with the nano case? I could always switch to a Fractal Compact but I just like the nano.
2. Which of the two RAM sets there should I go with? This may be linked to question 1... going to DDR5 seems like a good idea when it's on sale like that but the Caster set does seem to get really good press so I'm thinking it might be worth the extra dough.
3. I thought about going to 3080 on this, but it's just... it's 400 bucks more than this at minimum and I just don't see it giving me anywhere near 40% better results.
EDIT: Three configurations I could go with...
Cheaper build
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(Note: I already have the 1TB 980 pro NVME so the HDD storage is extra.)
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Not sure if this belongs here. If not let me know and I will move it…
My (13 year old) daughter has been asking for a gaming PC and I have no idea where to even start. He current game of choice is MineCraft, but she is interested in other “wold building” games, and potentially putting up YouTube videos etc. She is very adamant that she wants a desktop PC and not a laptop.
What is a good starter option? Should I just go to Memory Express and get one of the cheaper gaming PCs? Build something custom?
