2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Wait. Trading is "pretty much done"? Did it ever start?

We traded hope for a 2020-21 first round playoff exit.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Eric D said trading is pretty much done. Don’t expect much more from us, which is disappointing for those of us who were looking for some change up front.

Probably have to run with a 22 man roster. The math doesn’t work for us to be able to have a 23 man roster (3.285 with 5 players to sign). Signing 5 guys at 700k puts us over.

Sorry but what does Eric D know? Trades can happen anytime...we don't even know if and when the season will be let alone if trades are "done"

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I wonder if the Flames will pursue RFAs Bertuzzi or Mantha out of Detroit.

I would love another Bertuzzi on the Flames.

Bertuzzi is overrated IMO. Look at his numbers when not playing with Larkin and Mantha and it’s not great.

He’d come here to be third line LW behind Tkachuk and Gaudreau and we’d all wonder why we traded such a premium for him when the offense dried up.

Sign me up for Mantha though, he’s close to becoming a true top line star in the right situation.

[N-E-B]

I still think trading Rittich would be a massive mistake. He’s shown the past two years that he can be amazing but he burns out. IMO we have a fantastic tandem in Markstrom/Rittich and we can split the games 50/30. Keeps Markstrom and Rittich both fresh, and if Markstrom goes down to injury I’m not panicking because Rittich is good enough that he’ll give you a chance to win most nights.

I can see why he would want a trade if he thinks he can be a starter somewhere, but I wouldn’t be actively looking to trade him. We have one of the best tandems in the league right now. No need to mess with it.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I still think trading Rittich would be a massive mistake. He’s shown the past two years that he can be amazing but he burns out. IMO we have a fantastic tandem in Markstrom/Rittich and we can split the games 50/30. Keeps Markstrom and Rittich both fresh, and if Markstrom goes down to injury I’m not panicking because Rittich is good enough that he’ll give you a chance to win most nights.

I can see why he would want a trade if he thinks he can be a starter somewhere, but I wouldn’t be actively looking to trade him. We have one of the best tandems in the league right now. No need to mess with it.

While i agree with what you say, if we are trying to make altering moves regarding cap, then I would believe Rittich’s name would be up there if we needed space. If that happens I would hope we get a backup better than freaking Domingue.

[Two Fivenagame]

I wonder about that cap situation in Tampa. They have to unload salary, and the number of teams that can take on salary must be minimal at this point.

Now Chicago announces their plans, and if Toews and Kane are available, I think the market for good players with big contacts just got a little more buyer friendly.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I still think trading Rittich would be a massive mistake. He’s shown the past two years that he can be amazing but he burns out. IMO we have a fantastic tandem in Markstrom/Rittich and we can split the games 50/30. Keeps Markstrom and Rittich both fresh, and if Markstrom goes down to injury I’m not panicking because Rittich is good enough that he’ll give you a chance to win most nights.

I can see why he would want a trade if he thinks he can be a starter somewhere, but I wouldn’t be actively looking to trade him. We have one of the best tandems in the league right now. No need to mess with it.

This is like Ryan for me. I don't want to trade them. But you might have to in order to make a positive move further up the lineup. With the added factor of Rittich maybe being unhappy.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sorry but what does Eric D know? Trades can happen anytime...we don't even know if and when the season will be let alone if trades are "done"

‘Done’might be odd word choice, but at this point it’s highly unlikely the Flames manage to make any significant trades.

1. They are clearly in win now mode. Any trade therefor would need to be an immediate upgrade, which usually means taking on more salary.
2. Flames can’t take on any more salary
3. The trade market is really cold with the lack of cap space and looming ED


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[Classic_Sniper]

On the fan, Steinberg mentioned that Friedman had the Flames in on Josh Anderson. Obviously Anderson ended up in Montreal for Domi, but does have me wondering what the possible return would've been.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

On the fan, Steinberg mentioned that Friedman had the Flames in on Josh Anderson. Obviously Anderson ended up in Montreal for Domi, but does have me wondering what the possible return would've been.

Yeah the Flames interest has been rumoured for a while, dating back to last season.

Recently Friedman speculated that he thinks it was a bigger deal likely including one of Columbus' goalies too.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sorry but what does Eric D know? Trades can happen anytime...we don't even know if and when the season will be let alone if trades are "done"

I guess question is whether you are happy with the team as is, headed into the season? Or do you believe changes should be made.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Bertuzzi is overrated IMO. Look at his numbers when not playing with Larkin and Mantha and it’s not great.

He’d come here to be third line LW behind Tkachuk and Gaudreau and we’d all wonder why we traded such a premium for him when the offense dried up.

Sign me up for Mantha though, he’s close to becoming a true top line star in the right situation.

Mantha, is cut from the same cloth as Perry, & Tkachuk. A feisty #### to play against, yet one you’d love on your side.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Mantha, is cut from the same cloth as Perry, & Tkachuk. A feisty #### to play against, yet one you’d love on your side.

Has really, really strong underlying numbers too on a bad team.

If he's a guy that's available then they should be looking at that for the right price for sure.

[SportsJunky]

Who was the Flames player that Mantha had pinned on his back helpless while feeding him punches?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Who was the Flames player that Mantha had pinned on his back helpless while feeding him punches?

I think it was Hamonic.

But that’s a nothing play compared to what was happening at the same time. Tkachuk tapping a guy on the skates. Hard to catch something as innocent as what Mantha was doing when something like that happens.

[442scotty]

Yzerman is never gonna let Mantha go. Next.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I think it was Hamonic.

But that’s a nothing play compared to what was happening at the same time. Tkachuk tapping a guy on the skates. Hard to catch something as innocent as what Mantha was doing when something like that happens.

One handed tap.

[Monahammer]

Ryan+ Hanifin+ Pelletier +1st 2021 for Toews (40% retained)

Hanifin+Pelletier form the value for Toews, 1st 2021 for the retention, ryan for salary purposes.



Gives us this roster with ~1.5 million to sign the 6th RD. This would be an "all in" move in hopes we're cup hunting over the next two seasons.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Ryan+ Hanifin+ Pelletier +1st 2021 for Toews (40% retained)

Hanifin+Pelletier form the value for Toews, 1st 2021 for the retention, ryan for salary purposes.



Gives us this roster with ~1.5 million to sign the 6th RD. This would be an "all in" move in hopes we're cup hunting over the next two seasons.

Thats a ridiculously bad trade. Toews is not even that great anymore

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Thats a ridiculously bad trade. Toews is not even that great anymore

Agree to disagree. Near point per game player over his career but more importantly over the last two seasons, and PPG player in the playoffs, while bringing similar defensive qualities and possession metrics to Backlund. He also shut down McDavid in the playoffs this year... yeah it's a lot to give up but we really don't sacrifice anything on our current roster (depending on your opinion of Hanifin vs Kylington, or how Valimaki will emerge.) This player is worth this minor pain, especially at 6.5 a year instead of 10.5