Well they could've and should've traded the pick for an NHL Defenseman. But yes he was the clear number 1 at the time. Could've also gone with trading a 1st (matt Barzall) to get Griffen Reinhart. Or trading Taylor Hall for Larson, or trading Eberle for Strome, or the Lucic signing. The following were all bad moves when they were completed and are still bad moves for the organization today.
As for the Flames, I think trading Iginla for nothing of significance was a worse move then the Neal signing. Interesting to see that the best teams over the last 10 years have made very minor and very few "mistakes" while the Edmontons and Buffaloes along with Ottawa remain tire fires.
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Oilers got off easy. Selecting the clear cut #1 player in the draft isn’t a bad decision.
Rumour is that their scouts didn't want Yakupov but management stepped in.
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The Oilers' worst decision was G. Reinhart for Barzal.
Terrible trade regardless but they didn't trade Barzal, they traded a draft pick. Barzal fell in the draft and the Isles got lucky, they could easily have picked Senyshyn.
Terrible trade regardless but they didn't trade Barzal, they traded a draft pick. Barzal fell in the draft and the Isles got lucky, they could easily have picked Senyshyn.
I was shocked when New Jersey didn't take Barzal at 6th. And then he just kept dropping, for some reason. One of the most skilled players in that draft, I'm not sure why scouts didn't like him.
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Terrible trade regardless but they didn't trade Barzal, they traded a draft pick. Barzal fell in the draft and the Isles got lucky, they could easily have picked Senyshyn.
Okay, we'll go with your take that it was for picks, so 16th OA and 33rd OA for G. Reinhart.
Look at who else was on the board, even if Barzal was picked. To save you time, here are the remainder of the first rounders, some that you should familiar with:
Kyle Connor (17th OA) Thomas Chabot (18th OA)
Yevgeni Svechnikov (19th OA)
Joel Eriksson Ek (20th OA)
Colin White (21st OA) Ilya Samsonov (22nd OA) Brock Boeser (23rd OA) Travis Konecny (24th OA)
Jack Roslovic (25th OA)
Noah Juulsen (26th OA)
Jacob Larsson (27th OA) Anthony Beauvillier --> Isles traded 33rd OA and 72nd OA to move up 5 spots. So, one could argue that it was Beauvillier and Barzal for Reinhart and a 2015 3rd, which makes the trade far worse.
I can stop right there, because that's 5 players bolded the Oilers could've chosen. But they didn't. They instead traded for their precious Oil King that will go down as one of the worst trades they've ever made. I have no evidence to back this up (maybe someone does), but they could've had a Dougie Hamilton with those picks, in fact, I believe Chiarelli wanted Hamilton and Sweeney traded Hamilton to Calgary instead in spite. So, what does Chia do? He does what Chia does best, a panic trade.
Could you imagine Connor or Boeser flanking McDavid? Chabot and Larsson as a pairing? Konecny causing us havoc with strong two-way play and snarl mirroring what M. Tkachuk already does to them? Samsonov with the current potential of being an elite goaltender for the Capitals, imagine if the Oilers had him? You can top that off with Beauvillier as the 3C behind McDavid and Draisaitl if he makes it to 33rd OA. Heck, the Oilers could have picked Aho with 33rd OA (Aho was 35th OA).
The reasons go on. It was a panic trade and a trade I firmly believe has detained Edmonton from being a powerhouse in the current weak Pacific Division. More than Hall/Larsson (Larsson is at least a top 4 D), and Yakupov was a top prospect that just simply didn't pan out.
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I was shocked when New Jersey didn't take Barzal at 6th. And then he just kept dropping, for some reason. One of the most skilled players in that draft, I'm not sure why scouts didn't like him.
I think it was because he was injured during the 14/15 season. Kind of what happened to Veleno just recently. I really wanted the Flames to figure out a way to get him.
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We're talking about the oilers here, unlikely that they would have picked one of the good players. Even if they did they probably would have screwed up the players development. Anyway, I said it was a terrible trade.
I’d rank the Bouwmeester and Regehr trades up there as the Flames worst moves. Unlike Iginla there was no need to trade either of them at the time and Feaster could have held out for much better offers.
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I’d rank the Bouwmeester and Regehr trades up there as the Flames worst moves. Unlike Iginla there was no need to trade either of them at the time and Feaster could have held out for much better offers.
The Regehr cleared up cap space for the Flames to re-sign Tanguay.
So timing was definitely a factor there.
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Bouwmeester was the Flames worst trade by far...he still had over a year left on his deal, played for team Canada on the greatest d ever assembled the next season
Feaster didn't even wait for the ####ing trade deadline for some leverage when he had another year on the contract as a safety net
If this rebuild doesn't ever bear fruit I will forever blame that summer as the double miss that set the Flames off course.
They made the big trade that sent a disgruntled Hamilton away but managed to find gold with Lindholm and also Hanifin to an extent.
But then ROR gets moved and Treliving missed the boat on that one. Part of me wonders if at that point the newly acquired part time C Lindholm was part of the reason why BT didn't offer more than St. Louis did, or maybe it was also because they still had hope Bennett would get back on track with a new coach (Peters was hired that summer as well). Even still, should have got that one done.
Then he goes out and signs Neal, which I was happy about I admit. What a double whammy miss in hind sight.
Bouwmeester was the Flames worst trade by far...he still had over a year left on his deal, played for team Canada on the greatest d ever assembled the next season
Feaster didn't even wait for the ####ing trade deadline for some leverage when he had another year on the contract as a safety net
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