06-28-2020, 12:32 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Do the Flames even qualify Jankowski this off season?
I see his name in trade proposals which got me thinking..
If they dont deal him, do they even bother qualifying him? He has arb rights (which should mean little as far as going that route) and takes up over 1.5M in space. Would the team be better off just allowing him to go to UFA and taking what will be very important space with a likely lower cap overall.
This last season was a...well...not sure what that was. It was something this team simply cannot carry moving forward though. He was god awful. Detrimental at times. He will be 26 before whenever next season starts and regressed like something rarely seen in guys his age.
So let him walk or bring him back and hope he re-discovers what ever was missing?
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06-28-2020, 12:35 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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He has a mini camp and minimum 3 games to prove himself. Seems like a great team guy too so you know it'll be a tough decision.
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06-28-2020, 12:35 PM
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Franchise Player
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I doubt he wants to come back. He’s probably hoping to see if there is a better fit with another organization
Also no I don’t think flames will qualify him. Don’t think any organization is going to give him $1.5 million next year. Probably looking at $900,000 show me contract
Last edited by kyuss275; 06-28-2020 at 12:37 PM.
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06-28-2020, 12:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I think we qualify him. Everyone had a down year this past season. I think he has value even if you qualify and trade later on.
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06-28-2020, 12:46 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I think we qualify him. Everyone had a down year this past season. I think he has value even if you qualify and trade later on.
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At 1.7M per, im not sure there is a market anywhere for him when its very likely the cap shrinks.
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06-28-2020, 12:50 PM
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Franchise Player
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Could be a situation where they negotiate outside of the qualifying offer, or they qualify him and he signs the 1-year deal.
No way the Flames let him walk for nothing. One down year, which as mentioned by dissentowner was shared across the roster, doesn't make you abandon a player.
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06-28-2020, 12:55 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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He had a really bad third season but he did have 32pts and was a key penalty killer in 2019. I think there is bounce back potential there but also not sure there is a fit on the team. I think he holds some value around the league
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06-28-2020, 01:01 PM
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#8
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Not a chance. Too much for what he brings.
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06-28-2020, 01:09 PM
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First Line Centre
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I doubt they qualify him, but I won't be surprised to see something like a 1 year $1M contact
If he leaves I think a team like Detroit might try him as a 3rd line centre and hope his potential can be realized
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06-28-2020, 01:12 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Janko is a prime candidate for another "don't qualify but keep negotiations open" situation.
Paul Byron wasn't qualified at his $643.5k salary after 2013-2014 but was then signed for $600k anyways.
Alex Chiasson wasn't qualified at his $800k salary, but the Flames kept negotiations open before he signed with Washington for $660k.
Joe Colborne and Josh Jooris weren't qualified because they were arbitration eligible, but the Flames kept negotiating instead of getting locked into a raise they weren't comfortable with.
Don't qualify Jankowski but see if he wants to return closer to the $1M area. A lower salary the team can comfortably work with could actually be the difference between him making an NHL team and not.
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06-28-2020, 01:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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If we do sign Hall we may need every extra dollar and cent for cap space. I think we can find a replacement 4th Line Center in the PTO bin dame was as Rieder and Rinaldo.
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06-28-2020, 01:24 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
If we do sign Hall we may need every extra dollar and cent for cap space. I think we can find a replacement 4th Line Center in the PTO bin dame was as Rieder and Rinaldo.
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Yep, people talk about not wanting to overpay a big UFA... but that's what it takes to get them usually.
I'd rather "overpay" an elite top line player than overpay 3-4 players off the bottom of the roster.
Better to fill in the roster with hungrier players on their ELCs or PTO invites like Rinaldo and Rieder.
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06-28-2020, 01:26 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Janko is a prime candidate for another "don't qualify but keep negotiations open" situation.
Paul Byron wasn't qualified at his $643.5k salary after 2013-2014 but was then signed for $600k anyways.
Alex Chiasson wasn't qualified at his $800k salary, but the Flames kept negotiations open before he signed with Washington for $660k.
Joe Colborne and Josh Jooris weren't qualified because they were arbitration eligible, but the Flames kept negotiating instead of getting locked into a raise they weren't comfortable with.
Don't qualify Jankowski but see if he wants to return closer to the $1M area. A lower salary the team can comfortably work with could actually be the difference between him making an NHL team and not.
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This.
Janko likely knows unless he has a great playoff run, he's lucky to get league minimum. Prime opportunity for penny pinching.
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06-28-2020, 01:28 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Janko is a prime candidate for another "don't qualify but keep negotiations open" situation.
Paul Byron wasn't qualified at his $643.5k salary after 2013-2014 but was then signed for $600k anyways.
Alex Chiasson wasn't qualified at his $800k salary, but the Flames kept negotiations open before he signed with Washington for $660k.
Joe Colborne and Josh Jooris weren't qualified because they were arbitration eligible, but the Flames kept negotiating instead of getting locked into a raise they weren't comfortable with.
Don't qualify Jankowski but see if he wants to return closer to the $1M area. A lower salary the team can comfortably work with could actually be the difference between him making an NHL team and not.
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This is what I see happening as well.
If the Flames want to play Lindholm at C the top 4 C's right now are:
Monahan
Lindholm
Backlund
Ryan
Flames can't afford to have the 4th/5th best C on their roster carry a $1.75m cap hit, especially when he doesn't ever really slot in on a higher line on the wing.
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06-28-2020, 02:16 PM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Agree with most that you don't qualify him. It will be interesting to see what the PTO crop looks like this year. I could see a large pool of players being offered PTO's to fight for 1 year 650k contracts when the next season starts. I think a lot of players who typically get between 1.3 to 2.5 per season will really get squeezed.
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06-28-2020, 02:21 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Agree with most that you don't qualify him. It will be interesting to see what the PTO crop looks like this year. I could see a large pool of players being offered PTO's to fight for 1 year 650k contracts when the next season starts. I think a lot of players who typically get between 1.3 to 2.5 per season will really get squeezed.
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I'm also interested to see how it effects the top tier guys as well.
Last off season Pietrangelo would have got $12 million AAV easily, not many competitive teams will be able to swing that with a flat cap and no compliance buy outs or anything. Especially with rumors of a flat cap for the next three years potentially.
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06-28-2020, 02:53 PM
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#17
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Franchise Player
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Jankowski floats way too much. If he just kept moving his legs he'd be a much more effective hockey player.
I'd be fine with the team parting ways.
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06-28-2020, 04:05 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think the only reason you qualify him is if another team expresses interest in trading for his RFA rights, a la Shinkaruk.
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06-29-2020, 12:10 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Jankowski's qualifying offer would be $1.75 million. That's a LOT of coin to tie up with a fourth line center when the cap isn't going up at all next season.
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06-29-2020, 12:24 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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...and when you have Glenn Gawdin stewing in the minors, and both Elias Lindholm and Sam Bennett able to shift over to centre.
I think it's more likely we see Jakob Pelletier in Calgary than Mark Jankowski next year.
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