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Old 03-20-2017, 10:46 AM   #41
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Pretty much the standard increase, really. For my black seats, the round 1 price is the same as the non-STH price for the same seats in the regular season.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:46 AM   #42
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Are these prices accounting for 8 games or 6 games?
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:48 AM   #43
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Are these prices accounting for 8 games or 6 games?
8. Any game that isn't played you get a credit towards next years tickets.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:51 AM   #44
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8. Any game that isn't played you get a credit towards next years tickets.
you have the option to pay for games when they are guaranteed. e.g. guaranteed 2 games only so far, home game A & B.

Did you just pay for 8 games for the hell of it?
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:53 AM   #45
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you have the option to pay for games when they are guaranteed. e.g. guaranteed 2 games only so far, home game A & B.

Did you just pay for 8 games for the hell of it?
I only have a game pack, in the past they charge you for 4 games in a round, and anything they don't play (either they don't have home ice or are eliminated) you get a credit.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:54 AM   #46
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Yeah, pay as we play is the best option
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:54 AM   #47
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I only have a game pack, in the past they charge you for 4 games in a round, and anything they don't play (either they don't have home ice or are eliminated) you get a credit.
Oh ok, they treat game pack holders differently than season ticket holders then.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:57 AM   #48
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The appetite for playoff hockey in Calgary is very high. Talk of not selling out is silly. The threshold would be much higher than this for any risk of that happening.
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How long is the Hot House wait list these days?


I signed up at the beginning of the 2016 season and got in for this season -- 2nd bowl whites.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:12 AM   #50
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The appetite for playoff hockey in Calgary is very high. Talk of not selling out is silly. The threshold would be much higher than this for any risk of that happening.
Wasn't there playoff games in 2015 that didn't sell out? I thought I read that here somewheres.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:18 AM   #51
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I get the impression that Club seats never really sell-out. At face value they are ridiculously high priced.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:19 AM   #52
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I will by 4 tickets together in the Greens from anyone for 1 game if they aren't going. Really want to take my kids to first playoff experience at the Dome.

Send me PM for info
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:19 AM   #53
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^^^ yeah probably round 2 club seats. I can't imagine round 1 not selling out at those increases.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:20 AM   #54
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Wasn't there playoff games in 2015 that didn't sell out? I thought I read that here somewheres.
All five games were announced as sell-outs.
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All five games were announced as sell-outs.
"sell-out" doesn't mean 100% of available tickets sold. often seats go un-sold when a sell-out is announced.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:25 AM   #56
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"sell-out" doesn't mean 100% of available tickets sold. often seats go un-sold when a sell-out is announced.
I thought a sell out was all the tickets were sold or allocated for players/media and such. The seats are empty because the people didn't go.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:27 AM   #57
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It's weird today's email doesn't even address next year regular season renewal.
They will be getting hundreds of calls to explain that.

A little blurb on their plan would have been a good idea
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:30 AM   #58
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Conceptually, the relationship between the flames and STH's is partially one of the flames transferring risk to STH's.

The flames sell 41 games up-front, and the STH take the risk of those games over the course of the season. If the flames suck and are out of the playoffs, STH's should be left with games that have very little demand and will lose money on tickets, while the flames have guarenteed revenue for those seats. In contrast, when the flames are good, STHs get the upside. And over the long-run, the STH's should breakeven on selling secondary tickets. And, in return for taking on this risk, STH's are offered two things: (1) better seats within a price point and (2) ROFR on playoffs and ticket renewals.

The problem right now for STH's is that the flames are good, and you can't get anywhere near breakeven on season tickets. Its just not a good value proposition - especially if you have bad seats within a price point.

The problem for the flames is that if enough STH's don't renew tickets, you very quickly turn into a situation that the Ottawa Senators are facing. A lack of a season ticket base translates into 80% capacity and reliance on game day sales. And that in turn makes it less attractive to own season tickets and a vicious cycle begins. So the flames could ignore the secondary market, but they do so at their peril.
I gave up my Kansas City Chiefs tickets last month. I found that for some games I could get a good return on my tickets (Christmas game versus the Broncos for instance), but the preseason and December games are almost impossible to sell. I told my season ticket rep that I was tired of subsidizing cheap tickets for other fans and that from now on I would be buying on the secondary market because it was much cheaper (including playoffs).

I really think professional sports teams are going to have to reinvent themselves somehow in the not too distant future. Sure, there are markets where tickets are always red hot. But the majority of the markets have teams floundering around at .500, which is understandable considering how many teams there are. Still the majority of fans could care less about a Wednesday night game, not to mention paying hundreds of dollars to attend one. Plus, it is so nice to just sit home and watch the game on the big screen in HD and save the hassle of parking, crowds, over priced crappy food. The NHL, NBA, MLB, and even the NFL are going to have a tougher time selling out games at sky high prices like they have in the past. I'm talking regular season weekday games, not playoff games, not Friday night games versus the Yankees or Warriors or Penguins.
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It's weird today's email doesn't even address next year regular season renewal.
They will be getting hundreds of calls to explain that.

A little blurb on their plan would have been a good idea
No kidding, a little fore thought would save the employees there a bunch of time. I find the ticket reps for the Flames to be complete amateurs compared to the NFL team I used to have season tickets for. I came to CP after I received the email from the Flames for clarification.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:37 AM   #60
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Just got my invoice for Press Level

Regular Season: $25.86
Round 1: $39.59 (53% increase)
Round 2: $46.18 (78% increase)
How did you guys get your invoices? Online or in the mail? Thanks
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