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Old 03-15-2017, 11:32 PM   #1541
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I think I like Jim Jefferies way better in person than on his specials. Seems to lay off the booze when filming the specials. Both time I've seen him in Calgary he's drunk and gets progressively drunker as the night goes on. Seems to be wittier and have more audience interaction when he's on the booze. Netflix specials are still great for him though.
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:33 AM   #1542
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I love the fact that the first season of Mystery Science Fiction 3000 is on Netflix. I watched the fourth episode with Future War.
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I love the fact that the first season of Mystery Science Fiction 3000 is on Netflix. I watched the fourth episode with Future War.


Cool. I didn't know they put that up.
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:27 AM   #1544
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I think I like Jim Jefferies way better in person than on his specials. Seems to lay off the booze when filming the specials. Both time I've seen him in Calgary he's drunk and gets progressively drunker as the night goes on. Seems to be wittier and have more audience interaction when he's on the booze. Netflix specials are still great for him though.
Seeing him live is definitely a unique experience. He often goes over his time. The 2nd last time I saw him he was pretty cut, and went almost 2 hours. 45 minutes of pure audience interaction and extra jokes.

I bet he was regretting taking pictures with everyone afterward. In my picture with him he looks pretty sauced.
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:48 AM   #1545
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Seeing him live is definitely a unique experience. He often goes over his time. The 2nd last time I saw him he was pretty cut, and went almost 2 hours. 45 minutes of pure audience interaction and extra jokes.

I bet he was regretting taking pictures with everyone afterward. In my picture with him he looks pretty sauced.
We was slurring his words by the end of his set the first time he played Calgary a couple of years ago. He didn't have a second show that night like he did a few weeks ago that he had to stay somewhat in control for.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:57 PM   #1546
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Anyone catch Amy Schumer's comments today? It's not that people don't like her new special, according to her it's great, it's the usual alt-right trolls are going out of their way to spew negativity on everything she does because she's a woman and one of the biggest comedians in the world selling out stadium......


Probably had nothing to do with it actually not being very good, and the fact that people are pissed off at her for being caught stealing jokes red handed on multiple occasions.
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:20 PM   #1547
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I've never understood her mass appeal. Her whole "I'm a tramp, that drinks too much" schtick wore out on my pretty quickly, even on Last Comic Standing Season 5. She never seemed to have the wit the great comedians do in my mind. That said, she should teach marketing at the Wharton School of Business. She jumped all over the "I'm proud of my body" movement well ahead before it became mainstream and she was able to build a very large female fan base from that. Didn't even really matter if she was funny from that point. She was set.


I don't think she's an amazing comic or anything but what's wrong with being proud of your body? That isn't a movement, that's just something that should be supported
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I don't think she's an amazing comic or anything but what's wrong with being proud of your body? That isn't a movement, that's just something that should be supported
There's nothing wrong with it at all. I am distinguished gentleman of size myself. Maybe not movement is the correct word, but let's be honest, she got millions of women as fans because of her message and the card she played, and not her actual performance on stage.

My wife and her entire circle of friends went to her show last time she was in Calgary. None of them know anything about standup comedy, like it, or will ever go again. Amy could have put the worst show of her life on, and they'd say it was great.
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There's nothing wrong with it at all. I am distinguished gentleman of size myself. Maybe not movement is the correct word, but let's be honest, she got millions of women as fans because of her message and the card she played, and not her actual performance on stage.

My wife and her entire circle of friends went to her show last time she was in Calgary. None of them know anything about standup comedy, like it, or will ever go again. Amy could have put the worst show of her life on, and they'd say it was great.
I don't know, you seem to have a disproportionate need to tear her down because she's popular and you don't connect with her comedy.

Some people find her really funny, other people don't. Less than stellar comedians become wildly popular every few years, I doubt very much it's always some calculated agenda to capitalise on a movement. Comedians steal jokes, they are sometimes terrible people. Are you as upset that Louis CK gets a pass for the things he's been accused of?

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Old 03-16-2017, 10:28 PM   #1550
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I don't know, you seem to have a disproportionate need to tear her down because she's popular and you don't connect with her comedy.

Some people find her really funny, other people don't. Less than stellar comedians become wildly popular every few years, I doubt very much it's always some calculated agenda to capitalise on a movement. Comedians steal jokes, they are sometimes terrible people. Are you as upset that Louis CK gets a pass for the things he's been accused of?
Was never a fan, but didn't mind her when she first came out. Her jokes are tired now though and she quite prone to stealing them. The only reason she hits my radar is every time she bombs now the reason is because of sexism or body shaming. She's just not that good.

I don't know anything about Louis CK to comment. Never seen one of his specials. I saw him on a couple late night talk shows, wasn't really my jam as I found him obnoxious so I never went any further.

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I don't know, you seem to have a disproportionate need to tear her down because she's popular and you don't connect with her comedy.
I tear her down for the same reason I tore Carlos Mencia down. She's an unapologetic material thief.

The difference between Louis CK being "accused" of something and what Amy Schumer HAS done is just that. Louis CK has been accused with no proof or follow up that I've seen. Amy Schumer straight up steals jokes. She lifts material almost verbatim and changes the pace and timing of the joke.

I have no issue with Amy being proud of her body, and don't think she has anything to be ashamed of in that regard. But to say her most recent special is bombing because people want to shame her body or because of the "alt-right" boogey man is her trying to take advantage of the fact she is at the head of the "Body Positive" movement and to distract from the fact that the special wasn't that good and had more material blatantly lifted from other comics which she immediately got called out on.
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I thought the Schumer special was good for about 10 minutes, but then realized every joke was going to a variation of "aren't I such a dirty slut", which can't carry a whole special.
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It amazingly managed to carry all of her last specials.
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Alpine Oracle,

Schumer a joke thief on multiple occasions?

Are you talking about the bit on a special over a year ago with the "Dirty Sanchez", "Houdini" type jokes that everyone got pissed about because they were similar to a Patrice O'Neil bit a decade ago?

That material is so common that it's almost public domain at this point, that was her take on it. All of her peers in the NYC comic scene have zero problem with it, many of those comics knew Patrice. Zero problem.

Is there another instance/example you're referring to that people are complaining about?
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Schumer a joke thief on multiple occasions?

Are you talking about the bit on a special over a year ago with the "Dirty Sanchez", "Houdini" type jokes that everyone got pissed about because they were similar to a Patrice O'Neil bit a decade ago?

That material is so common that it's almost public domain at this point, that was her take on it. All of her peers in the NYC comic scene have zero problem with it, many of those comics knew Patrice. Zero problem.

Is there another instance/example you're referring to that people are complaining about?
Look up the videos on Youtube. There are tons of them showing her stealing bits for her show and jokes for her stand up. Its too much to be coincidence.
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I don't think she's an amazing comic or anything but what's wrong with being proud of your body? That isn't a movement, that's just something that should be supported
There is a movement though, the healthy at every size bull####. While Amy's not necessarily a proponent of the movement, there is a huge overlap of her audience and the idiots who subscribe to the healthy at every size stuff. Unfortunately (or probably more fortunately) for her, as one of the bigger new actresses she's got a following of people who are just happy to see "non-ideal" body types in entertainment. That's not to say she herself is overweight, I think she's on the upper-end of healthy weight, but she's overweight by Hollywood standards.

As for what's wrong with being proud of your body? Well the health risks associated with being fat, see this timely article released today by Global News:

http://globalnews.ca/news/3317067/be...y-60-per-cent/

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Nothing to be proud about in that statistic.
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Is there another instance/example you're referring to that people are complaining about?
She has been directly called out by Kathleen Madigan, Wendy Liebman and Tammy Pascetelli for directly lifting their bits. A writer from Arrested Development also chimed in that he was seeing lifted bits.

Now, from this special she has jokes that are almost verbatim from Dave Attell and Dave Chapelle.

Material lifting happens, but Schumer is frustrating because she has catapulted to stardom off of it and is now rubbing it in our face every time she gets in front of a camera
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is the 4k netflix worth it in Canada yet? we always get less titles than US so curious
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is the 4k netflix worth it in Canada yet? we always get less titles than US so curious
Feel free to correct me on this, but that is a pretty old argument about netflix in Canada. The title selection has improved drastically over the years and I don't have much in the way of complaints about selection now.
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I've been enjoying season 3 of Halt and Catch Fire. They turned Joe McMillan into a bit of a John MaAfee type character.
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