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Mattman · 07-10-2021, 10:15 AM

Does a 3 way trade with St. Louis, Buffalo and Calgary work?

Calgary: Eichel, Tarasenko
Buffalo: Monahan + any picks or prospects from St. Louis
St. Louis: Tkachuk

Something around that but each team is essentially taking some sort of risk in the players they get with St. Louis adding more to get rid of Tarasenko and get the better player.

GreenLantern2814 · 07-10-2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I would love to see a Gaudreau signing and Eichel trade just to see ostrich sized egg on Francis's face.

I’d like to see it because I think it would win lots of hockey games, but yours is good too.

schteve_d · 07-10-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

Eric Francis literally sucks at everything. How is he still employed?

There’s probably a handful of joe blows on this very site who could do a better job.

Is journalism a “who you know” industry or something?

Yes, probably one of the best examples of a "who you know" industry.

flambers · 07-10-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattman

Does a 3 way trade with St. Louis, Buffalo and Calgary work?

Calgary: Eichel, Tarasenko
Buffalo: Monahan + any picks or prospects from St. Louis
St. Louis: Tkachuk

Something around that but each team is essentially taking some sort of risk in the players they get with St. Louis adding more to get rid of Tarasenko and get the better player.

No, Sabres would laugh and hand up the phone

Monahan might only worth a 2nd round pick at this point

Until he gets healthy and has rebound season

monkeyman · 07-10-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Vegas in on Eichel?

FML

That franchise is pretty much the worst thing to happen to my NHL/Flames Fandom.

Being exempt from the expansion draft is a huge advantage for Vegas as well. If I’m Vegas, I’d be looking for opportunities now via trade with other teams who are handcuffed by expansion.

TheIronMaiden · 07-10-2021, 10:37 AM

I hate vegas more and more every day.

Vinny01 · 07-10-2021, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattman

Does a 3 way trade with St. Louis, Buffalo and Calgary work?

Calgary: Eichel, Tarasenko
Buffalo: Monahan + any picks or prospects from St. Louis
St. Louis: Tkachuk

Something around that but each team is essentially taking some sort of risk in the players they get with St. Louis adding more to get rid of Tarasenko and get the better player.

Here is my attempt at a crazy 4 team blockbuster

Calgary trades: Tkachuk, Zary 12th overall
St Louis trades: Tarasenko, Thomas, 16th overall, 2nd 22
NYI trade: Ladd, Komerov, Wahlstrom
Buffalo trades: Eichel

Calgary receives: Eichel
St. Louis receives: Tkachuk
NYI receives: Tarasenko, 2nd 22
Buffalo receives: Zary, 12th overall, 16th overall, Thomas, Wahlstrom, Komerov, Ladd

Calgary gets the center they need

St. Louis moves Tarasenko and gets Tkachuk

Islanders add a potential impact forward and while it costs a promising prospect they get to dump a bunch of cap in the process and get a needed pick.

Buffalo gets a haul they do take cap dumps but get 2 guys drafted in the first round in 2018, a first rounder from 2020, and 2 picks in the top half of this upcoming draft which they could potentially pair to trade up as rumored they want a second top 10 pick

topfiverecords · 07-10-2021, 11:14 AM

The one thing Tkachuk going to Buffalo does is it gets two Tkachuks in one division.

Flamesfan05 · 07-10-2021, 11:28 AM

Make it simple

Tkachuk and Monahan for Eichel and cap dump to make salary equal

dino7c · 07-10-2021, 11:32 AM

2nd overall team exempt from the expansion draft, thanks Gary

"bUT tHeY pAid mONeY"

WTF cares, you think they would have said no to the franchise without this exemption?

MrMike · 07-10-2021, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Make it simple

Tkachuk and Monahan for Eichel and cap dump to make salary equal

Tkachuk Dube Zary 1st.

I don’t know who can beat that, all depends if Buffalo wants Tkachuk or not. That’s the only thing that should stop us from getting Eichel.

Flamesfan05 · 07-10-2021, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMike

Tkachuk Dube Zary 1st.

I don’t know who can beat that, all depends if Buffalo wants Tkachuk or not. That’s the only thing that should stop us from getting Eichel.

Why shouldn’t they want Tkachuk

He is probably the best proven young player they can get. Anything above him would be n Eichel level and nobody is going to give them the same talent back.

getbak · 07-10-2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I almost wonder if Friedman thinks Tkachuk isn't on the table at all in terms of Eichel offers.

I'd guess that's the likely reason. He has probably been told that Tkachuk isn't available.

dino7c · 07-10-2021, 11:47 AM

Even if they didn't want Tkachuk they could flip him...it boggles my mind that people think the Flames couldn't put together a competitive offer.

Niemo · 07-10-2021, 11:48 AM

What does Vegas have that would make sense and be anywhere near Tkachuk value for a young rebuilding team?

Hey Connor, It's Mess · 07-10-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Niemo

What does Vegas have that would make sense and be anywhere near Tkachuk value for a young rebuilding team?

I don't think they have anyone with Tkachuk's value. Glass and Krebs are very good prospects and one of them would probably move in an Eichel trade.

I'm guessing every team in the league would take Tuch in a heartbeat, he is another name that could be attached to a trade to raise the value in Vegas' favour. I see them presenting a package with multiple pieces rather than one or two big players like other teams could do.

MrMike · 07-10-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Why shouldn’t they want Tkachuk

He is probably the best proven young player they can get. Anything above him would be n Eichel level and nobody is going to give them the same talent back.

Contract situation, may want futures/picks/high end cost controlled prospects. No one really knows the direction Buffalo wants to be going in.

DoubleK · 07-10-2021, 12:17 PM

Johnny deserves a modest raise. Something like 7.25x7 or 7.5x6. If he needs a 10 team NTC he can have that for the last 3 years.

Get it done Tre.

dissentowner · 07-10-2021, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flambers

No, Sabres would laugh and hand up the phone

Monahan might only worth a 2nd round pick at this point

Until he gets healthy and has rebound season

Monahan played most of the season with a bad hip, every year he is good for 30 goals. He is not fetching Eichel straight up but this narrative he has the value of a 2nd rnd pick is laughable.

DeluxeMoustache · 07-10-2021, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Monahan played most of the season with a bad hip, every year he is good for 30 goals. He is not fetching Eichel straight up but this narrative he has the value of a 2nd rnd pick is laughable.

Exactly. From the other thread, a second rounder gives about a 5% chance of just being a top 6 player