Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[Roof-Daddy]

Vegas in on Eichel?

FML

That franchise is pretty much the worst thing to happen to my NHL/Flames Fandom.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

It kind of bugs me when Friedman says the Flames don't have enough interesting pieces to acquire Eichel, then he goes on to say Anaheim does.

It shouldn't. It's just the way things are. If you think either Pelletier or Zary are in the same class of prospect as Zegras or Drysdale, you're sadly mistaken. Zegras has top line potential. Drysdale has top pair potential. Both are dynamic offensive players.

Are pieces like 3rd OA, Zegras, Drysdale really more interesting that Tkachuk?

Yes, because Buffalo should be concerned about team building, but recouping a big salary if they can. If you're taking that contract on, you're making a big commitment to a player on the wing. Try and consider the foundational pieces that the Sabres are getting in Zegras and Drysdale, then add in another top player with the third over all. Cozens/Zegras as the 1/2 punch in the middle would be pretty impressive. Dahlin/Drysdale is pretty good on the back end. Then add in Power and Eklund to those four players. Yeah, that's way better than Matthew Tkachuk and some middle six prospects.

I almost wonder if Friedman thinks Tkachuk isn't on the table at all in terms of Eichel offers.

I think everyone knows Tkachuk is on the table, just the suitors may be very limited because of his future contract. If his camp is holding firm on that $9M number, the interest may be quite limited.

[Goriders]

Tkachuk should be on the table after last season.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Tkachuk should be on the table after last season.

Right...every time a young player has a down season, they should be traded.

Its the best way to build a team

[stemit14]

I really think if both drysdale and Zegras were on the table along with Anaheim’s first round pick, the deal would’ve done already. That is a huge haul especially if there is no cap going back. Considering the other teams in on eichel, that must not be on the table yet. I imagine Buffalo is asking for all that but I bet Anaheim is probably offering something like Drysdale + 1st round pick + Comtois. Buffalo might get what they are asking for from Anaheim but it would be basically emptying your prospect cub boards in the middle/early stages of a rebuild - that’s a difficult thing to do.

If Calgary is truly offering Tkachuk, that’s a pretty competitive offer along with their first round pick and say, Pelletier. Not sure if that’s realistic though. I don’t think Calgary is willing to give them tkachuk. What’s interesting is that if giordano is selected in the expansion draft and Monahan is on LTIR… the flames could feasibly acquire eichel without having to send much salary out to make room. Unlikely, I know but getting eichel while keeping Lindholm, Gaudreau, backlund, eat bread and Monahan would be pretty incredible.


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[Toonage]

This is all so confusing. Friedman goes on the Fan yesterday morning and says he has no news on the Flames. Later that day he posts this about the Gaudreau extension and Eichel. He's also on Edmonton radio saying Monahan might not be ready to start the season which flies in the face of what is out there but who knows, might not be wrong? Weird stuff.

[Badgers Nose]

On Reddit the sports subs rate press reports/rumours with tiers. The higher the number the less reliable the source. And it’s rated specific to the team. I’d rate Friedman a Tier 3. Does he ever get it right when discussing the Flames? Lots of ‘guess’ proviso so he is cover his ass. But it seems like he is just tossing a bone to the Flames fandom without any real sources or news.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

On Reddit the sports subs rate press reports/rumours with tiers. The higher the number the less reliable the source. And it’s rated specific to the team. I’d rate Friedman a Tier 3. Does he ever get it right when discussing the Flames? Lots of ‘guess’ proviso so he is cover his ass. But it seems like he is just tossing a bone to the Flames fandom without any real sources or news.

He mentioned the Lucic-Neal swap weeks before it went down

[Toonage]

I guess I just don't get why, if you have this Flames specific news that is kind of big and you want to throw the Flames fan base a bone, you wouldn't do it on the Flames flagship radio station.

Why hide it?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I guess I just don't get why, if you have this Flames specific news that is kind of big and you want to throw the Flames fan base a bone, you wouldn't do it on the Flames flagship radio station.

Why hide it?

I notice he does that on Calgary radio a lot, especially the Friday segment. They always ask him if he has any big stories, and he usually says no. I always assumed it was because he was trying to save the juiciest news for HNIC on Saturday. But in this case there are no more broadcasts so I am not sure what his reasoning is unless he didn't get confirmation until after the radio hit.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

I would be willing to bet that Nault breaks down and cries about it on air if that goes down.

If Will Nault breaks down in a forest but no one is listening, does it make a sound?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I guess I just don't get why, if you have this Flames specific news that is kind of big and you want to throw the Flames fan base a bone, you wouldn't do it on the Flames flagship radio station.

Why hide it?

And if he’s going to hide it, why are they paying him? Or does he just have to fill the slot because everyone is SN?

[Teroy]

Sorry, Gaudreau I don't want. Eichel, I don't care either way.

[1qqaaz]

I wonder if Friedman would have given the update if Pinder had directly asked about Gaudreau's contract extension.

Because I'm pretty sure he only asked about buyouts and Eichel.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Right...every time a young player has a down season, they should be traded.

Its the best way to build a team

"On the table" doesn't equal "should be traded'.

I have no idea why any player on this roster is considered untouchable much less one who is not signed long term.

[Erick Estrada]

I would love to see a Gaudreau signing and Eichel trade just to see ostrich sized egg on Francis's face.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I really think if both drysdale and Zegras were on the table along with Anaheim’s first round pick, the deal would’ve done already. That is a huge haul especially if there is no cap going back. Considering the other teams in on eichel, that must not be on the table yet. I imagine Buffalo is asking for all that but I bet Anaheim is probably offering something like Drysdale + 1st round pick + Comtois. Buffalo might get what they are asking for from Anaheim but it would be basically emptying your prospect cub boards in the middle/early stages of a rebuild - that’s a difficult thing to do.

If Calgary is truly offering Tkachuk, that’s a pretty competitive offer along with their first round pick and say, Pelletier. Not sure if that’s realistic though. I don’t think Calgary is willing to give them tkachuk. What’s interesting is that if giordano is selected in the expansion draft and Monahan is on LTIR… the flames could feasibly acquire eichel without having to send much salary out to make room. Unlikely, I know but getting eichel while keeping Lindholm, Gaudreau, backlund, eat bread and Monahan would be pretty incredible.


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It’s not that Tkachuk doesn’t have great trade value, it’s more that he’s not really the premium piece Buffalo should be wanting in moving a Eichel.

And Calgary simply doesn’t have the prospect pieces to headline a deal.


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[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

"On the table" doesn't equal "should be traded'.

I have no idea why any player on this roster is considered untouchable much less one who is not signed long term.

He is 23, he is among the top 50 point getters in the entire NHL since entering the league, 6th at his position, he is good defensively, he is a pain in the ass to play against, and he is without question a leader on his teams thus far.

What are you trading for that makes the club better? Those are the kind of players teams are looking for, not to get rid of.

No one should be untradeable because its the logo on the front before the name on the back....but it better be to improve the club. You arent making the club better by trading him because there is no one better he can fetch, at least one for one.

As for not signed long term...then we best trade Monahan, and Gaudreau, and Mangiapane and Dube and Kylington and Valimaki too...none of them are signed long term either.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I would love to see a Gaudreau signing and Eichel trade just to see ostrich sized egg on Francis's face.

Eric Francis literally sucks at everything. How is he still employed?

There’s probably a handful of joe blows on this very site who could do a better job.

Is journalism a “who you know” industry or something?

[1qqaaz]

The nicest thing I can say about Francis is that he's a lot better than David Staples.