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Old 11-14-2016, 09:45 AM   #181
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I spent the weekend completely reorganizing my gameroom for couch pc gaming. Going wireless will work well for you but I use a Razer Nostromo so no wireless for me. I took the keyboard tray from my desk and glued a no slip shelf material to the bottom so it sits on my lap without sliding and also used Velcro for the Nostromo and Keyboard. The PS4 wireless headphones are really good.

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Old 11-14-2016, 09:56 AM   #182
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Still not sold on KB+M for couch gaming. I often move over to the couch with a 360 wireless controller for racing/3rd person gaming, but I still have 0 reason to play an FPS/RTS/TBS on my TV.
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Old 11-14-2016, 10:32 AM   #183
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Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.82 @ Newegg Canada)
I'm somewhat out of touch with parts these days, and I'll admit, I don't know much about A-Data, so someone can correct me if I am wrong on this.

But for my primary SSD, I'd go with a Samsung EVO or an Intel instead. Both are pretty highly rated, and should only be slightly more, if that.

The 250GB 850 EVO came on sale for around $90 last year on both Black Friday and Boxing Day...

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3...story_days=730

Again, I might just be misjudging A-Data, but after a bad experience with a previous gen OCZ Vertex, I'm very cautious about SSD's, lol. I've come to trust only Intel or Samsung for them.
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Old 11-14-2016, 11:28 AM   #184
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I'm somewhat out of touch with parts these days, and I'll admit, I don't know much about A-Data, so someone can correct me if I am wrong on this.

But for my primary SSD, I'd go with a Samsung EVO or an Intel instead. Both are pretty highly rated, and should only be slightly more, if that.

The 250GB 850 EVO came on sale for around $90 last year on both Black Friday and Boxing Day...

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3...story_days=730

Again, I might just be misjudging A-Data, but after a bad experience with a previous gen OCZ Vertex, I'm very cautious about SSD's, lol. I've come to trust only Intel or Samsung for them.
ADATA is an acceptable brand. I have that exact model, and while it's at 2013 speeds (400/500) it's stable.

Really, you want an m.2 stick for your OS drive, but they aren't cheap
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Old 11-14-2016, 12:04 PM   #185
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ADATA is an acceptable brand. I have that exact model, and while it's at 2013 speeds (400/500) it's stable.

Really, you want an m.2 stick for your OS drive, but they aren't cheap
Right, just my paranoia then. Carry on. 🤣
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:03 PM   #186
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When buying an SSD you may want to keep an eye out for the estimated number of write hours. Some SSD drives don't have as much as others. I think the Samsung Pros have a higher write threshold than the regular ones. This may not matter as you may never reach those values but it might be something to keep in mind.

My new motherboard has the option for an m.2 stick but I went with a Samsung 850 500GB and Windows loads extremely fast. I usually don't turn the computer off but when I need to reboot it it takes about 5-10 seconds to get from me clicking reboot to me typing in my password to get back into Windows. Based on that, I don't know how much faster an m.2 would be.
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:06 PM   #187
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When buying an SSD you may want to keep an eye out for the estimated number of write hours. Some SSD drives don't have as much as others. I think the Samsung Pros have a higher write threshold than the regular ones. This may not matter as you may never reach those values but it might be something to keep in mind.

My new motherboard has the option for an m.2 stick but I went with a Samsung 850 500GB and Windows loads extremely fast. I usually don't turn the computer off but when I need to reboot it it takes about 5-10 seconds to get from me clicking reboot to me typing in my password to get back into Windows. Based on that, I don't know how much faster an m.2 would be.
From technical speeds, m.2s (depending on the model) are usually 4x faster for read and 2x faster for write than most (not all) standard SSDs.

Take a look at the read/write specs on this hot mama:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX60082

At 2,500MB/s read and 1,500MB/s write, that is 5x and 3x (respectively) faster than the average SSD.
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From technical speeds, m.2s (depending on the model) are usually 4x faster for read and 2x faster for write than most (not all) standard SSDs.

Take a look at the read/write specs on this hot mama:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX60082

At 2,500MB/s read and 1,500MB/s write, that is 5x and 3x (respectively) faster than the average SSD.
Dammit. I had a nice 1TB SSD around $275 that I figured will be sufficient in my next build (probably at the end of the month). Now that I've looked up what M.2 drives are, I want one.

Looks like a cheap M.2 drive like the Intel 600p series goes for $250 for 500 GB. Not bad at all..but half the storage I was planning on.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:54 PM   #189
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Those Intel 600P's are cheaper for a reason. Their speeds are quite a bit slower than others like the one Psy linked.
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Old 11-15-2016, 09:41 AM   #190
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I spent the weekend completely reorganizing my gameroom for couch pc gaming. Going wireless will work well for you but I use a Razer Nostromo so no wireless for me. I took the keyboard tray from my desk and glued a no slip shelf material to the bottom so it sits on my lap without sliding and also used Velcro for the Nostromo and Keyboard. The PS4 wireless headphones are really good.

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Old 11-15-2016, 11:02 AM   #191
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My only gripe with Linus (who I do appreciate for a lot of reasons) is that he hasn't revisited the Push/Pull/Push+Pull debate with rads. There's been a lot of tech in that field since his last vid on it in 2013 and there are a few myths perpetuated from his old video, since it's the only real "authority" on the topic.
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Those Intel 600P's are cheaper for a reason. Their speeds are quite a bit slower than others like the one Psy linked.
For gaming/normal use, is the 600P a nice boost on top of a normal SSD?

How noticeable would the performance gain be if I went from 600P to a 950 pro?

Sorry these are kind of vague/nebulous questions. Just looking for some opinions. The 600P seems like it is basically the same price per GB as higher end SSD's, but the price per GB skyrockets with the recommended NVMe drives.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:13 AM   #194
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Saw a good deal on a MSI mobo today but I've been really scared off of MSI from reviews about their horrific customer support and RMA process.
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This one looks good.
Would love that though it looks like it's right handed only.
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Old 11-18-2016, 03:04 PM   #196
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Would love that though it looks like it's right handed only.
The price is excessive. I really like it but not for the price of an xbox.
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Old 11-24-2016, 12:44 PM   #197
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Posted in the Black Friday thread, but felt I should share here, too. Newegg.ca has the Intel Core i5-6600K on sale for 284.99, which is the cheapest I've seen it since I began looking.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...108.1478023319
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Old 11-24-2016, 01:26 PM   #198
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With all the talk about couch gaming I went ahead and bought the Steam Link and Steam Controller from Amazon. They are $26 and $42 respectively. It'll be interesting to see what a GTX 1080 powered game will look on my TV.

The reviews for the controller say it's great for everything except for FPS games. I was thinking about playing slower, turn based games with it anyway.
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Posted in the Black Friday thread, but felt I should share here, too. Newegg.ca has the Intel Core i5-6600K on sale for 284.99, which is the cheapest I've seen it since I began looking.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...108.1478023319
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...bx80662i56600k

Indeed the cheapest normal price, but not a must buy. Looks like they had a one day sale 5 months ago for $250.
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...bx80662i56600k

Indeed the cheapest normal price, but not a must buy. Looks like they had a one day sale 5 months ago for $250.
Dang. Oh well, if it goes on sale cheaper between now and January I'll just return the one I got from newegg.
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