Yikes. Vinyl chloride is nasty stuff. It is carcinogenic, migrates quickly through soil and groundwater (can even go through concrete), and persists for a long time once it gets into the groundwater table. Remediation is expensive and time consuming.
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The short and long term health effects are going to be a nightmare to watch unfold.
I've been listening to some local newscasts about that (the internet is a wonderful thing that way...) and the one that utterly shocked me was an anchor suggesting that anyone in the area go and immediately get a 'state of health' type check-up/statement from your doctor, so that if/when anything health-wise happened (between now and the next 15 years...) that that statement of condition could be pointed to, which would help to indicate the derailment as the cause.
Yikes. Vinyl chloride is nasty stuff. It is carcinogenic, migrates quickly through soil and groundwater (can even go through concrete), and persists for a long time once it gets into the groundwater table. Remediation is expensive and time consuming.
EPA saying the water is safe to drink even with fish turning up dead? I wouldnt chance it.
This has the potential to be catastrophic but I’m actually looking forward to watching conservatives trying to explain this one away and how it’s actually Bidens fault.
This has the potential to be catastrophic but I’m actually looking forward to watching conservatives trying to explain this one away and how it’s actually Bidens fault.
I'm actually waiting for those on the left to come in and explain how this is directly linked to the government interfering with a potential railworkers strike.
I'd like to know more about what failure actually happened here before I start assigning blame. It's a ####ing tragedy no matter the cause, so let's figure out the safety of people and wildlife first before pointing fingers.
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I'm actually waiting for those on the left to come in and explain how this is directly linked to the government interfering with a potential railworkers strike.
I'd like to know more about what failure actually happened here before I start assigning blame. It's a ####ing tragedy no matter the cause, so let's figure out the safety of people and wildlife first before pointing fingers.
You can't directly link the strike to this one event anymore than you can directly link any specific weather event directly to climate change. But just because you can't link it directly, doesn't mean it didn't have an impact.
The train derailed due to a broken axel on one of the trains, and it isn't unreasonable to think that with proper staffing and safety protocols in place it couldn't have been avoided. The rail workers specifically were calling for a strike because they were overworked and knew things were going to end up overlooked. But also, you can look at the Trump change to the braking standards as posted earlier, or Norfolk's executive fighting off a shareholder imitative to increase safety. Swiss cheese effect, as in any accident.
So no, Biden's actions didn't directly lead to this crash, but it is reasonable to think that the rail workers being free to fight for their rights instead of forced back to work could have at least provided more protection from it happening.
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Red tape reduction, man.
Years ago, on a parenting board, I posted with a couple of people that live in East Palestine. One moved away a few years ago, the other is still there and lives within a couple of miles from the derailment site- they evac'd immediately, even though at the beginning, they were outside the mandated evac zone. I don't know if they're back home yet or not, I haven't checked in the past few days.
Seeing some stuff on TikTok that residents are testing their water and finding contamination. This is a gargantuan mess.
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