10-09-2020, 10:13 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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I can't be the only one who thinks he clears.
His contract is terrible value for what he brings. $5MM for 4 more years for a 0.5 point per game player?
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10-09-2020, 10:14 AM
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#22
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think Ottawa gets him first.
Johnson is owed just $3.75, $5.5, $3.75, and $4.75 over the next four seasons. $17.75 million on a total $20 million cap hit, a bargain for a cash-strapped team.
They could use a guy to play behind Stutzle, too.
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10-09-2020, 10:14 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
This is to get around his NTC.
Now a team that wasn't on the list he gave the lightning can grab him.
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10-09-2020, 10:15 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Honestly, he makes more than he is worth. I wouldn't take that contract for nothing.
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10-09-2020, 10:15 AM
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#25
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I can't be the only one who thinks he clears.
His contract is terrible value for what he brings. 4 more years for a 0.5 point per game player?
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To me he is a Red Wing come tomorrow. Stevie Y knows him well, and they have the room.
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10-09-2020, 10:15 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricosuave
whats the waivers order?
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I think it is the same as the draft order until they start playing again.
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10-09-2020, 10:15 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by canada 02
i assume he has already been offered in trade across the league with no takers. Seems likely to clear.
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10-09-2020, 10:15 AM
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#28
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
$5million cap hit x 3 years ain't quite free though...
Is he worth that?
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He's comparable offensively to Backlund, so I'd say it is pretty close to being what he is worth
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10-09-2020, 10:16 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
$5million cap hit x 3 years ain't quite free though...
Is he worth that?
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FWIW, it's 4 years.
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10-09-2020, 10:17 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
He's comparable offensively to Backlund, so I'd say it is pretty close to being what he is worth
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no he absolutely is not?
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10-09-2020, 10:18 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
no he absolutely is not?
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No, not worth it. His point totals are likely to go down or stagnate at best.
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10-09-2020, 10:20 AM
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#32
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
He's comparable offensively to Backlund, so I'd say it is pretty close to being what he is worth
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Capfriendly does a neat comparable, and the top three matches for contracts are Alex Killorn, Ondrej Palat and Elias Lindholm.
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10-09-2020, 10:21 AM
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#33
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
FWIW, it's 4 years.
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Even worse then! I think I missed this year...
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10-09-2020, 10:23 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I find that he and Derek Ryan are incredibly similar players. Solid if not spectacular contributors, smaller stature, right hand shot, makes players around them better, both from Spokane Washington... TJ is 4 years younger. He will be a solid role player for someone.
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10-09-2020, 10:24 AM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
To me he is a Red Wing come tomorrow. Stevie Y knows him well, and they have the room.
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Does anyone ever stop to think that Tampa are in this bind because of the stupid contracts Stevie Y handed out?
Same as Detroit and their former players with stupid contracts from Ken Holland, and Edmonton expects him to fix things there?
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10-09-2020, 10:26 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Does anyone ever stop to think that Tampa are in this bind because of the stupid contracts Stevie Y handed out?
Same as Detroit and their former players with stupid contracts from Ken Holland, and Edmonton expects him to fix things there?
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The bind where they just won the Stanley Cup?
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10-09-2020, 10:27 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I can't be the only one who thinks he clears.
His contract is terrible value for what he brings. $5MM for 4 more years for a 0.5 point per game player?
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His 5v5 production isn't that bad over the last two years, and he's still a really good 5v5 goal scorer. Here is his league ranking minimum 1000 minutes over the last two seasons.
1.15 Goals Per 60 (17th in the whole NHL)
1.87 Points Per 60 (117th)
Tampa is just so deep that he's on PP2 and they don't get as much time.
If you are a team with cap space that could use a scoring threat then it could be a shrewd pick up. Especially if you have room on PP1.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Does anyone ever stop to think that Tampa are in this bind because of the stupid contracts Stevie Y handed out?
Same as Detroit and their former players with stupid contracts from Ken Holland, and Edmonton expects him to fix things there?
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What contract was stupid? If not for a flat cap in the middle of a pandemic I don't think there is a contract on that roster they wouldn't be able to move.
The only contract that's a bit of an overpay would be Vasilevski but he's a yearly Vezina candidate with a Vezina trophy and a cup already...so even though it's a big cap hit he was probably the right goalie to give it to. Or Johnson who is still a top 20 5v5 goal scorer in the NHL and is going to get claimed for sure.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 10-09-2020 at 10:34 AM.
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10-09-2020, 10:27 AM
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#38
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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This is crazy. So 2020
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10-09-2020, 10:28 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Does that mean he’s automatically gone to the team that claims him (subject to waiver position) or the Bolts can still use this as leverage to make a deal?
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10-09-2020, 10:29 AM
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#40
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Does anyone ever stop to think that Tampa are in this bind because of the stupid contracts Stevie Y handed out?
Same as Detroit and their former players with stupid contracts from Ken Holland, and Edmonton expects him to fix things there?
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With all due respect to Stevie Y, they just WON THE CUP.
I don’t think anyone can say anything is stupid about any contracts or anything they did.
The accomplished the goal.
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