10-01-2020, 10:16 AM
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#1001
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Oops I answered the wrong question. The guy I would avoid is Schneider. Could be a useful second pairing guy but that's the ceiling.
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It does seem like Schneider is one that keeps popping up, as there just doesn't seem to be that much high upside with him. It would be a shame to draft another Chris Dingman.
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10-01-2020, 10:28 AM
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#1002
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bax
I agree. I'm a big fan of the Lapierre and Savoie picks. Could potentially end up with two dynamic forwards there. Does anybody know where Savoie plans to play next year?
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Univ of Denver
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10-01-2020, 10:29 AM
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#1003
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Have I mentioned James Hardie in here yet? He's the guy I want the Flames to nab with their fourth-rounder. Huge scoring potential, love his game.
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10-01-2020, 10:33 AM
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#1004
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DomeFoam
I like Lapierre as well, seems like he has high hockey IQ and elite playmaking. Its a bit concerning that he can't score and is afraid to shoot the puck. This can be fixed with good coaching im sure.
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The vital question is what Jimi Hendrix song will be Lapierre's goal song?
- Purple Haze
- Little Wing
- Fire
- Voodoo Chile
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10-01-2020, 10:34 AM
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#1005
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Kelowna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cral12
The vital question is what Jimi Hendrix song will be Lapierre's goal song?
- Purple Haze
- Little Wing
- Fire
- Voodoo Chile
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Fire, most definitely.
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10-01-2020, 10:40 AM
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#1006
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makarov
I would love that. The only concern with him is injuries, but I think that's a gamble you take when picking at 19.
EDIT: I honestly didn't just plagiarize home_sweet_dome's idea. It just so happens that we're both brilliant and I didn't see his or her post before making mine.
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Aren't his injuries due to some spinal issues and not actual concussion issues as they thought? Seems like a bit of a risk but high reward.
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10-01-2020, 10:41 AM
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#1007
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Powerplay Quarterback
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What are the knocks on Perreault? Seems like a low risk high reward guy from what I've seen
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10-01-2020, 10:41 AM
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#1008
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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I am a big Braden Schneider guy. He's just so smooth and calm and good in both ends. He might not have Norris ceiling necessarily, but his floor is pretty high. He's a safe, smart pick. I would call him the Monahan of defensemen.
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10-01-2020, 10:43 AM
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#1009
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeway
I am a big Braden Schneider guy. He's just so smooth and calm and good in both ends. He might not have Norris ceiling necessarily, but his floor is pretty high. He's a safe, smart pick. I would call him the Monahan of defensemen.
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Yeah I agree.
Im not for picking a D at #19, but I wouldn’t be outraged at all if we picked him at #19.
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10-01-2020, 10:45 AM
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#1010
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Wow I actually love that Pronman draft. Kuznetsov is also an interesting prospect.
I think Savoie has great upside too. Would be very happy if the draft went like that.
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10-01-2020, 10:50 AM
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#1011
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Savoie is a local kid (St. Albert) with huge numbers in the AJHL and a lot of natural offensive gifts.
Question is if that will translate to the next level. Long-term project with large upside if he hits.
Not a bad way to spend a 4th.
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I believe he's related to Matthew Savoie who's going to be a 1st rounder in a few years, kid is lightning quick.
Get his brother now then go for Matthew in 2022/23!
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10-01-2020, 10:54 AM
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#1012
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Kelowna
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I like Mavrik Bourque at 19. Elite goalscorer and elite vision, high capability of processing plays and creating from what he is given. 29-42-71 in 49 games this year on a bad Shawinigan team. I think he might be the steal, seems like such a smart player and definitely a safer pick than Lapierre with similar upsides.
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10-01-2020, 10:55 AM
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#1013
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Wow I actually love that Pronman draft. Kuznetsov is also an interesting prospect.
I think Savoie has great upside too. Would be very happy if the draft went like that.
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No thanks to Yan Kuznetsov.
FC - Ranked 123
HockeyProspecting - D0-NHLe of 10
6'4", 209 Lbs.
Everything I've read about him has him as a stay at home defenceman. The offensive talent (lack thereof) doesn't intrigue me at all. Comparisons to Zybnek Michalek...no thanks. Not what I'd be aiming for in the 2nd round.
Hendrix Lapierre seems like a fine pick at 19 - it seems like a homerun swing that could hit.
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10-01-2020, 11:09 AM
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#1014
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
No thanks to Yan Kuznetsov.
FC - Ranked 123
HockeyProspecting - D0-NHLe of 10
6'4", 209 Lbs.
Everything I've read about him has him as a stay at home defenceman. The offensive talent (lack thereof) doesn't intrigue me at all. Comparisons to Zybnek Michalek...no thanks. Not what I'd be aiming for in the 2nd round.
Hendrix Lapierre seems like a fine pick at 19 - it seems like a homerun swing that could hit.
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I'm totally agreed that one should focus on upside - but if you can get 800 games out of a 2nd rounder (Michalek) you've hit a home run.
In my aggregate list Kuznetzov comes in at #47 with an average draft position of 59 - so certainly right in that range for the Flames.
Not saying they should pick him though - I don't know enough about him at all.
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10-01-2020, 11:10 AM
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#1015
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I believe he's related to Matthew Savoie who's going to be a 1st rounder in a few years, kid is lightning quick.
Get his brother now then go for Matthew in 2022/23!
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They are brothers. I saw them both play in St. Albert and they were head and shoulders above everyone else. Matthew played on the same team as Carter in spite of the age gap and still lit it up. Michael Benning has also played with them pretty much that entire time and is going to go in round 2 this year, another great potential target for us.
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10-01-2020, 11:12 AM
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#1016
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'm really gun shy about Bourque and Lapierre. Something doesn't sit right with either player for me. I mean, Bourque is a RHS scoring forward, everything about says I should like him, but he just doesn't give me a good vibe when I'm couch scouting. Lapierre, wild card, 100 percent healthy he would be pushing another player down to the Flames and he would be top ten, but yeah, maybe just non generational QMJHL players aren't that awesome to me.
Any who, I think Dylan Peterson is a Flame in the 2nd round this year. Then Barron gets taken at 19. He screams Flames pick to me. Yup.
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10-01-2020, 11:12 AM
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#1017
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I'm totally agreed that one should focus on upside - but if you can get 800 games out of a 2nd rounder (Michalek) you've hit a home run.
In my aggregate list Kuznetzov comes in at #47 with an average draft position of 59 - so certainly right in that range for the Flames.
Not saying they should pick him though - I don't know enough about him at all.
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Out of curiosity did Michael Benning already come off the board before Pronman took Kuznetsov for us? I would vastly prefer Benning.
Kuznetsov is an unexciting prospect but I think his floor is pretty high. He skates well, controls the puck well, and is physical. I would compare him to Luke Schenn.
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10-01-2020, 11:15 AM
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#1018
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm really gun shy about Bourque and Lapierre. Something doesn't sit right with either player for me. I mean, Bourque is a RHS scoring forward, everything about says I should like him, but he just doesn't give me a good vibe when I'm couch scouting. Lapierre, wild card, 100 percent healthy he would be pushing another player down to the Flames and he would be top ten, but yeah, maybe just non generational QMJHL players aren't that awesome to me.
Any who, I think Dylan Peterson is a Flame in the 2nd round this year. Then Barron gets taken at 19. He screams Flames pick to me. Yup.
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For some reason I feel the same about Gunler as you do with Bourque. Nothing against Gunler, I just don’t think he pans out. If we pick him I’m all for eating crow.
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10-01-2020, 11:20 AM
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#1019
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Out of curiosity did Michael Benning already come off the board before Pronman took Kuznetsov for us? I would vastly prefer Benning.
Kuznetsov is an unexciting prospect but I think his floor is pretty high. He skates well, controls the puck well, and is physical. I would compare him to Luke Schenn.
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I don't have an athletic sub right now so haven't seen his full list.
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10-01-2020, 11:28 AM
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#1020
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I don't have an athletic sub right now so haven't seen his full list.
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I should just buy one, it's on sale right now still. Im a miser though
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