03-28-2018, 08:41 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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Off season RW options-Nichushkin?
I think we can all agree that the Flames still have a glaring need for a RW that can play in the top 6 but preferably on the top line.
What do people see as realistic options this off season, either through UFA or trade?
Personally I would be interested in trying to get Nichushkin off Dallas. His KHL contract is over and he is expected to return to the NHL next season. He is only due a RFA contract which could be a slow as $2 mill for maybe 1-2 'prove it' years, especially as he hasn't exactly lit up the KHL. I expect many to be afraid of the 'run back to Russia' factor but he has already played that card and I expect him to want to prove that he belongs in the NHL.
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03-28-2018, 08:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UKflames
I think we can all agree that the Flames still have a glaring need for a RW that can play in the top 6 but preferably on the top line.
What do people see as realistic options this off season, either through UFA or trade?
Personally I would be interested in trying to get Nichushkin off Dallas. His KHL contract is over and he is expected to return to the NHL next season. He is only due a RFA contract which could be a slow as $2 mill for maybe 1-2 'prove it' years, especially as he hasn't exactly lit up the KHL. I expect many to be afraid of the 'run back to Russia' factor but he has already played that card and I expect him to want to prove that he belongs in the NHL.
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I don't think the Stars will make him available. The whole reason he left was because he clashed with Ruff who is gone. From everything I have heard he is fine with going back to Dallas now.
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03-28-2018, 08:46 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I don't think the Stars will make him available. The whole reason he left was because he clashed with Ruff who is gone. From everything I have heard he is fine with going back to Dallas now.
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I had heard the same but just thought it would be a good option if we could convince Dallas to sell.
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03-28-2018, 09:07 AM
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Franchise Player
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The Stars are also desperate for depth scoring so it'd be surprising if they would let him go for little.
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03-28-2018, 09:35 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UKflames
I think we can all agree that the Flames still have a glaring need for a RW that can play in the top 6 but preferably on the top line.
What do people see as realistic options this off season, either through UFA or trade?
Personally I would be interested in trying to get Nichushkin off Dallas. His KHL contract is over and he is expected to return to the NHL next season. He is only due a RFA contract which could be a slow as $2 mill for maybe 1-2 'prove it' years, especially as he hasn't exactly lit up the KHL. I expect many to be afraid of the 'run back to Russia' factor but he has already played that card and I expect him to want to prove that he belongs in the NHL.
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What do you think Dallas might want for the #10 draft pick of the deep 2013 draft?
If he wasn't Russian he might have gone in the top 5-6 picks and looked like the steal of the draft at #10.
In his 18 year old season in the NHL he had the same pts as Monahan (34) and was +20 rather than a -20 almost half a year younger than Monahan.
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03-28-2018, 09:41 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
What do you think Dallas might want for the #10 draft pick of the deep 2013 draft?
If he wasn't Russian he might have gone in the top 5-6 picks and looked like the steal of the draft at #10.
In his 18 year old season in the NHL he had the same pts as Monahan (34) and was +20 rather than a -20 almost half a year younger than Monahan.
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One is a legit 30 goal scorer while the other one is playing in the KHL. Nobody cares about plus minus stats.
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03-28-2018, 09:44 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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If Bennett is a bust -- which I disagree with -- then Nichushkin is, too. I don't really want him at all.
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03-28-2018, 09:45 AM
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First Line Centre
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My right wing options are:
Gustav Nyquist
Kasperi Kapanen
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03-28-2018, 10:14 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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He's worth at least kicking the tires but I'm weary of Russian players that go home when faced with adversity.
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03-28-2018, 10:25 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I’d love to get him but I think it’s a pipe dream. I don’t think the Stars will let him go
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03-28-2018, 10:31 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
What do you think Dallas might want for the #10 draft pick of the deep 2013 draft?...
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How does this have any relevance? Nichushkin is no longer a high draft pick. He is now 23-years-old and two years removed from being a 0.5 pts/game player in the NHL. He has some value, but not a lot compared to the 2013 NHL entry draft
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03-28-2018, 10:39 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Iginla
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03-28-2018, 01:20 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If Bennett is a bust -- which I disagree with -- then Nichushkin is, too. I don't really want him at all.
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Bennett for Nichushkin.
Make it happen Tre.
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03-28-2018, 01:28 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by rohara66
Bennett for Nichushkin.
Make it happen Tre.
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Interesting idea, since Bennett likely isn't going to be utilized as a center.
Deal for a natural RW which you're more in need of.
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03-28-2018, 01:28 PM
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Franchise Player
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The guys that I see as trade bait (with a RW being the target) would be Brodie, Ferland and Stone. That should be enough of a carrot to get someone really good. I'd rather go after the Dallas player, or someone else off the radar as opposed to a bidding war situation like will likely happen with Hoffman.
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03-28-2018, 01:29 PM
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Franchise Player
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Nichushkin is probably one of those players that are 'worth more to the team than what they would get in a trade'. Unless Nichushkin wants out of the Dallas organization before considering a return (which probably won't happen with Ruff not being there), I can't see them trading him away. What team is going to pony up for a flight risk that had a big injury early in his career, and that may have impacted his game? Not much.
I would love the Flames to acquire him on the cheap - any non-defensive prospect in the Flames system or any 3rd round and lower pick - but that's not going to happen. A team is not going to spend much to take on that risk, and Dallas is not going to give him away for nothing.
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03-28-2018, 01:33 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If Bennett is a bust -- which I disagree with -- then Nichushkin is, too. I don't really want him at all.
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Probably can't compare the two players because of the obvious difference in paths they've taken. Bennett has had his chances in the NHL with NHL players while nichuskin had only the one year.
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03-28-2018, 01:37 PM
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Franchise Player
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Does Calgary really have the option to not gamble? Swing for the fences. Nichuskin for an overpayment is fine. If the Stars need help on defense, we are a good trading partner for them.
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03-28-2018, 01:40 PM
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First Line Centre
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I think a deal could be had with MTL:
To MTL:
TJ Brodie
Emile Poirier
To CGY:
Brendan Gallagher
5th Round
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03-28-2018, 01:50 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Since1984
I think a deal could be had with MTL:
To MTL:
TJ Brodie
Emile Poirier
To CGY:
Brendan Gallagher
5th Round
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This + Bennett for Nichushkin.
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