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Old 05-19-2022, 09:27 AM   #61
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I'm curious about this - why would he do that? He's already the leader of the UCP, what does this accomplish?
IDK, seeking a stronger mandate than 50% +1?
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:27 AM   #62
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He just needs to add Ottawa and Trudeau to the list of people he blames and he's got all the Alberta UCP leadership traits down.
'Laurentian Elites' and 'Eastern Bastards' really get the people GOING!
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:34 AM   #63
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What about Rona Ambrose?

Would she run?
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:35 AM   #64
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I know Jean and as person and leader I would say that he is actually very far from being weak and pathetic. He is a very good person but I don't necessarily see eye to eye with him when it comes to social issues so that would be my concern with him as leader.
as soon as he suggests to Kenney that he get Notley involved, he loses a lot of credibility, at least in my eyes,
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:40 AM   #65
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IDK, seeking a stronger mandate than 50% +1?
Okay, but why? From who? How does voting again change that result?
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:46 AM   #66
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Hey kenney, if you're reading this, #### you you stupid ####. You couldn't have been worse. I'll give you one thing...you never ceased to amaze me by doing the wrong thing literally every time you made any decision. Thanks for wasting millions upon millions with your abject stupidity and inability to make reasonable decisions. Also #### you for being a partisan idiot. So long #### face.
I think you're letting him off too easily here.
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:53 AM   #67
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Hey kenney, if you're reading this, #### you you stupid ####. You couldn't have been worse. I'll give you one thing...you never ceased to amaze me by doing the wrong thing literally every time you made any decision. Thanks for wasting millions upon millions with your abject stupidity and inability to make reasonable decisions. Also #### you for being a partisan idiot. So long #### face.
I’m sure Kenney is reading this and actually cares what some anonymous keyboarded has to say about him, or did your kid log in with your username?

And I’m not a Kenney fan.
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I have heard speculation as well that he will run again for the leadership.
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Okay, but why? From who? How does voting again change that result?
This way he isn't up against a nebulous imaginary leader candidate, instead he has people he can debate and win over. Plus he can have a Kamikaze candidate(s) to help him out.

He tried ballot box stuffing and only got 51%, so back to the tried and true.
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Old 05-19-2022, 10:01 AM   #70
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What about Rona Ambrose?

Would she run?
Am hearing as well that her running federally is not out of the question.
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Actually he probably wants a chance to debate Jean. I wouldn't doubt he would run for party leadership again if for no other reason than to call out his enemies onstage.
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Old 05-19-2022, 10:03 AM   #72
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Actually he probably wants a chance to debate Jean. I wouldn't doubt he would run for party leadership again if for no other reason than to call out his enemies onstage.
So now it is his turn to be a kamikaze candidate?
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It would be his turn to be Jason Kenney.
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I’m sure Kenney is reading this and actually cares what some anonymous keyboarded has to say about him, or did your kid log in with your username?

And I’m not a Kenney fan.
I love the part where he calls out Kenney for being partisan. A partisan politician. Can you imagine? What’s the world coming to.

People who get this worked up about politicians need to get out and go for a walk. That goes for anyone who froths at the mouth over Trudeau too.
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I love the part where he calls out Kenney for being partisan. A partisan politician. Can you imagine? What’s the world coming to.

People who get this worked up about politicians need to get out and go for a walk. That goes for anyone who froths at the mouth over Trudeau too.

Kenney is hyper-partisan to the point of it being embarrassing. He brings up his counterparts constantly whenever making a point. “blah blah, Trudeau, blah blah Notley, blah blah blah”
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Old 05-19-2022, 10:31 AM   #76
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I know Jean and as person and leader I would say that he is actually very far from being weak and pathetic. He is a very good person but I don't necessarily see eye to eye with him when it comes to social issues so that would be my concern with him as leader.
I wouldn't call him pathetic.

I do think he's a waffle and will probably agree with any suggestion put to him, so in that sense he's weak.

I don't doubt he's a nice person in general, but I also don't trust in what he'll do because of his belief system. I think the school curriculum would continue down the dark road it's on, for example.

be interesting to see if any of the UCP members who hated Kenney will run, or just line up behind Jean.

I predict they will line up behind Jean as he's likely the best chance to get people on the fence to give the UCP another chance.
Then they can continue the crap they've been doing the last few years.
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I don't know what option is worse as an Albertan. Kenney, Smith, or Jean

It's like the laundry machine is broke, and you're sniffing underwear in the bin for the least horrible pair to put on.
Would rather go commando.
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Old 05-19-2022, 10:43 AM   #78
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I know Jean and as person and leader I would say that he is actually very far from being weak and pathetic. He is a very good person but I don't necessarily see eye to eye with him when it comes to social issues so that would be my concern with him as leader.
Being from Fort McMurray, I don't have a great opinion of him, most of that is based on the social issues that you mention, some of that is that he's was the leader of the crazy person wild rose party, and the rest is that I've heard things because my family and many friends still live in Fort Mac. I don't really like anything about him, other than the fact that I think he's a little more honest than Kenney, so there's that.
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Kenney is hyper-partisan to the point of it being embarrassing. He brings up his counterparts constantly whenever making a point. “blah blah, Trudeau, blah blah Notley, blah blah blah”
Do you only follow provincial politics? Trudeau has brought up "blah blah Harper, blah blah, Harper" for multiple terms after Harper was out for crying out loud.
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I love the part where he calls out Kenney for being partisan. A partisan politician. Can you imagine? What’s the world coming to.

People who get this worked up about politicians need to get out and go for a walk. That goes for anyone who froths at the mouth over Trudeau too.
In this context I mean governing for your supporters and putting their will above the needs and will of the entire population over which your governing. Yes, he's on the right side of the spectrum, but that doesn't mean he should ignore everybody at least 1mm to the left.

He should also be able to speak on behalf of the province, not on behalf of his political party. He was unable to do that throughout.

Sorry, didn't know that wasn't obvious to any thinking person.
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