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Old 06-29-2022, 07:51 AM   #3421
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It looks like the love child of a CLA and a Beetle, and when you see the back end you detect some Civic type r in the bloodline.


^^I always kinda liked the Juke.
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:56 AM   #3422
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You don't drive from the outside...

Hyundai is killing it right now. Especially with anything with Genesis badging.
They totally are killing it. Also love how each of their models actually look different instead of everything following the exact same corporate design language regardless of how well it suits different vehicles of differing proportions in their lineup.

Hey, total aside, but is bmw going to fataing address their completely ruined front ends at some point soon? We're all agreeing not to buy one of those fugly things in protest, correct? They make me physically ill when I see one.
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:58 AM   #3423
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It's got the same kinda swoop arch as the Alpha, but I think the Alpha looks a lot better.


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Old 06-29-2022, 08:10 AM   #3424
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Well but that misses the point which is lowering the drag to increase range.

Honestly I have no particular love for electric cars other than as practical mediums of transport but what Hyundai is doing makes me think they might get it to a point where I decide to get one literally for that "practical transport" purpose... they're getting close. If you're looking at over 600 km of range, some cabin comfort and workable technology, a decent warranty from a reputable manufacturer that can be relied on to physically and mechanically assemble a vehicle with minimal jank (i.e. not Tesla) and an 18 minute 10 to 80 charging time... it's getting mighty tempting.
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Old 06-29-2022, 08:14 AM   #3425
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The problem with range increases from low drag is as soon as you start adding things like a roof rack, or bike rack, or tassels, range takes a big hit. Not an issue for everyone, but something to keep in mind if you plan to do that with an EV.
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Old 06-29-2022, 08:36 AM   #3426
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That would probably be an issue if you were getting an Ioniq 5. I would think with that 6 very few people would want to add a roof rack to the thing.

I'm mainly thinking about driving from here to Vancouver in the summer... suppose you leave in the morning, stop in Revelstoke for lunch, plug the car in while you eat, and off you go the rest of the way without worrying about running out of battery. That's a pretty decent way to do that trip, and if the Ioniq 5 having a reported 450+ km of range and this one presumably being better, it's getting pretty close to where that's a feasible trip.
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Old 06-29-2022, 08:41 AM   #3427
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You would probably be better with 2 charge stops. You aren't getting an EV battery to 100% quickly, particularity after a long drive. So you'd charge to 80%, and move on. Plus with the mountains I'd think range isn't quite as good. Plus you have to pin it often to get around all the slow pokes on the 2 lane roads...
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Old 06-29-2022, 08:44 AM   #3428
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The problem with range increases from low drag is as soon as you start adding things like a roof rack, or bike rack, or tassels, range takes a big hit. Not an issue for everyone, but something to keep in mind if you plan to do that with an EV.
Not going to be great for Subaru owners who like to drive around with containers on their roof even when they aren't using them.
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Old 06-29-2022, 08:45 AM   #3429
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Not going to be great for Subaru owners who like to drive around with containers on their roof even when they aren't using them.
Yeah, but it says, “I go places!” and that’s what’s important.
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The Ioniq 5 is a cool looking car. Now I look at the new one and all I see is a CLA. That’s a shame because I’m a fan of Hyundai’s current style across the range, however borrowed it might be.
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:43 AM   #3431
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It's got the same kinda swoop arch as the Alpha, but I think the Alpha looks a lot better.


That is cool, the side view, fenders and even the roofline really remind me of a TR6 with a hardtop.
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:58 AM   #3432
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Ioniq 6 is one fugly vehicle. The exterior anyway.

I think we need more interesting looking vehicles. Subaru Tribeca, Nissan Juke, Tesla Cybertruck!
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Old 06-29-2022, 11:15 AM   #3433
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All these screens introduce more points of failure, especially when you leave a vehicle outside in -20 to -30 degree weather. That being said, I've yet to have my infotainment screens act up in cold weather. *knock on wood*
Not to mention that all of this new tech keeps driving the price of vehicles up.
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Old 06-29-2022, 11:24 AM   #3434
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Yeah, but it says, “I go places!” and that’s what’s important.
Once upon a time we rented a basement suite near University Drive and the people upstairs drove an Outback and half the time they had a canoe tied to the roof rack. They were university students.
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From this angle, I actually got kind of a Citroen vibe. But the rest of the angles quashed that.

Spoiler!
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From this angle, I actually got kind of a Citroen vibe. But the rest of the angles quashed that.

Spoiler!
That was my initial thoughts too, maybe that's why I am not a fan.
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Old 06-29-2022, 05:38 PM   #3437
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I see a lot of '68-'74 Citroen DS at the front, a lot of Porsche 911 at the back, and the glass and c-pillar remind me a lot of the Mercedes-Benz CLA and CLS as others have noted. I think this looks quite a bit better than the CLA though; they cut a lot of the visual 'heft' of the CLA out by having bigger wheels & tires.

Spoiler!


The proportion of sheetmetal between the bottom of the beltline and the top of the wheel well is much smaller in the Ioniq 6, making it look a lot more svelte to me.

I watched a YouTube video about the car yesterday:


At 12:50ish he has a seat inside it and there's loads of headroom, unlike the CLA/CLS. I think they've managed to make this car look a lot sleeker than its actual dimensions would have you believe. Not unlike the Ioniq 5, which inch-for-inch is actually a pretty big car on the spec sheet but doesn't look it in person.
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Citroen? Yes. Taycan? Not at all.
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Old 06-29-2022, 06:31 PM   #3439
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I've been waiting for screen side view mirrors since like '92 when cadillac had it on some concept car. It's genius. Side view mirrors are one of those fixtures that has never been re-addressed because how do you improve on that? Well, when you can make what used to be 10" x 6" on the side of a car become a little 1" x 1" camera and bring the screen inside the vehicle beside your gauge cluster, you've absolutely improved things. And we have screens and cameras sorted out at this point. I'm not worried about the reliability of the tech. Anything they can do to cars to change up some of the things we take for granted always interests me. That is an option I would totally be interested in.
The screens better be bright as hell to be visible when low sun is hitting them. My backup cameras are useless in those conditions.

Also people with poor near vision are using their distance vison/lenses when using an actual mirror. The screen necessitates your vision at the distance of the screen itself is good. Can you see the tiny motorbike ripping up at 200km/h in the lane beside you on the screen with your old man eyes and glasses?
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:05 PM   #3440
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Here's one reason why digital mirrors suck, with science:


https://www.theautopian.com/digital-...-with-science/
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