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Old 12-17-2021, 05:15 PM   #741
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That discussion begins and ends with this beauty.



Perfect in every way.
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The TOS movies’ ships FTW.

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Perfect in every way.

I don't know, I never really got into the E. Too much flying hotel for me.
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I'll see if I can hunt down the breakdown of just how huge the Enterprise D really was. The likelihood that you would ever run into another crew member during your day is extremely remote.
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Old 12-17-2021, 07:29 PM   #745
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I'll see if I can hunt down the breakdown of just how huge the Enterprise D really was. The likelihood that you would ever run into another crew member during your day is extremely remote.

Was if the cross-section poster? I have this somewhere, I need a Star Trek mancave.

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Old 12-17-2021, 09:09 PM   #746
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a couple other ships I like for stupid reasons

Daedalus class - so ugly that it almost goes all the way around to beautiful

That's also the closest thing to a real life starship that humans would be able to use, assuming you could spin the cylindrical and sphere sections to generate artificial gravity
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I don't know, I never really got into the E. Too much flying hotel for me.

Well... that's a picture of D, so... not sure what the issue is?
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Was if the cross-section poster? I have this somewhere, I need a Star Trek mancave.

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I have that photo hanging in my office!
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I have that photo hanging in my office!

Is that there just to distract CC when you’re trying to do his taxes?

I have no such excuse though for my high school nerdiness….
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That was a pretty good episode. Cool to see Michael Greyeyes there, but his appearance had me wishing he and the other prisoners might have secretly Khan and gang resulting from whatever squiggliness from the original Trek timeline.

Stamets is getting a little annoying with the predictable standoffishness followed by total loyalty before the end of the episode.

The Q angle was interesting, in so much as whether they might be tying this in with Picard S2 somehow. Like some kind of Encounter at Farpoint test.
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I have that photo hanging in my office!
I ordered the cross-section poster from Starlog magazine but eventually I gave it to a friend who put it on the wall and now it's been lost for 20 years.
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Re Discovery.


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They took the easy way out with Book, they'd been dealing with his feelings of loss and failure over the destruction of his planet. Then they completely pulled the hand brake on that when they suddenly made the jump to its a weapon with some amazing leaps of sci fi logic. Then he was back to normal, but angry. They just can't seem to draw things out to a logical conclusion and now he's mad.


I felt like they rushed things to the whole its a weapon, there was no science behind it, they put in the obvious plot device of its moving and they jumped to its a weapon.


Yeah it was nice that they started naming races, and cool that they thought it could be the Q, but you just know that at that point you can pretty much eliminate all their races.


The interactions between Stamets the scientist and Saru was nice, with Reno in a rare appearance doing the Scotty thing with the power. I think they thought they had to do the whole silly mashed potato and Pea thing as a heavy handed Close encounters easter egg. But on a ship with 1000 year in the future holographic projectors they used food. It just felt heavy handed.




The prison thing and the whole we're federation we don't approve of your justice system was a nice distraction because of the acting performance by Felix the depressed prisoner. more then anything else.



Its interesting to see that they have Zora as a fully functional AI with an emotional ability. They hinted at this with the conversation between Zora and Saru last year. But I expect that they won't go anywhere with it, its just there to be another hammer blow to our heads by the writers about how cool they are and thoughtful.


Its pretty clear that they're trying to set up Tarka as maybe a mini villain this year where he will suduce Stamets to his reckless ways, and he does have the scar on the back of his neck from the Emerald Chain slavery thingy, and that's why we got the substory of the doctor and his angst over acting as Ships Councillor and the one on one scene at the end with he and Stamet's talking about their days.


In one laughable minute we've talked about how the bridge crew is furniture that we don't care about. Well at the end of the episodes I noticed that the navigator and helmsmen were not the usual team and Detmer and the navigator what's her face had not been in a episode that probably needed the hot shot team.


Look, it wasn't a bad episode, its just the norm. They pack as much stuff as they can in. Resolves issues like Book's in about 5 minutes, and really do little outside of the main characters, and then hit us in the head with the writing hammer a few times.


On the positive side, the guest stars Chronenburg (sp?) and Felix put in amazing performances. The effects were strong. We got with leaps of logic and 5 minutes work the resolution to what the DMA is so now they can progress to the big bad, which I hope is not Clint Howard reprising his role as Balok from the first Federation who will realize the wrong he's doing with the DMA and invite the crew over for Tranya and cheese.


Like I said it was a solid episode, so lets see if they can build on this.


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I would love to see Reno on full time. I think her character is perfect for a Trek series. I wonder how much Notaro gets to ad libs there, because her dialogue seems on a different level than the rest of the cast.

All in all, I could imagine that as a episode of TNG.

After thinking about it for a bit, I am suspicious of Tarka. He was able to recreate the DMA pretty easily. He probably was responsible for the current one or help created it under threat of the Emerald Chain.
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It's telling that all of Disco's best episodes feature limited scenes of the main cast.

I've also discovered what turns me off about all of them, besides the horrid dialogue and endless weeping. It's that they insist that their regular conversational voices is dripping with that whiny, weak-ass, blubbering tone. No matter what.

When you realize you're burned out, you dont need to be a whiny b*tch about it, just take it in and see what you can do to solve it.
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I would love to see Reno on full time. I think her character is perfect for a Trek series. I wonder how much Notaro gets to ad libs there, because her dialogue seems on a different level than the rest of the cast.

All in all, I could imagine that as a episode of TNG.

After thinking about it for a bit, I am suspicious of Tarka. He was able to recreate the DMA pretty easily. He probably was responsible for the current one or help created it under threat of the Emerald Chain.
Tig and Kurtzman are friends. It all started as kind of a laugh to have her in it. They’ll fly her up to T.O. for a few days but she has no interest in Star Trek at all.

There’s an official ST podcast with Twany Newsome and Paul F Tompkins called Star Trek: The Pod Directive and they interviewed her a couple of years ago.
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RE Discovery - First of all, they just recently announced that the show is going on a 6 week I think mid season break, after Thursday's episode there are 4 episodes left to wrap up this story line. So this show was a mid season finale

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I think what bugs me most about Discovery is that every character is neurotic and anxiety driven. Now we have neurotic computer thrown into the mix.

They're supposed to be astronauts, explorers and somewhat militaristic. There should be at least a few characters on the ship who are confident and emotionally controlled. Instead we have a whole bunch of characters who have to be told "that's an order" because they're constantly questioning their superior officers.
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I think what bugs me most about Discovery is that every character is neurotic and anxiety driven. Now we have neurotic computer thrown into the mix.

They're supposed to be astronauts, explorers and somewhat militaristic. There should be at least a few characters on the ship who are confident and emotionally controlled. Instead we have a whole bunch of characters who have to be told "that's an order" because they're constantly questioning their superior officers.
This.

And I'm not the guy that complains about the "crying" in the show. Emotion is fine, dramatics are good for story telling. But dramatic whispering and longing voices in EVERY.SINGLE.SCENE is bad TV.

Like you said, these are basically soldiers. Yes Starfleet is basically the military branch of the Federation. And before anyone says otherwise, these characters are supposed to be from the 2250s when that was true more than any other point in history.

It was a decent episode for what it's worth.

But why did Michael Jesus have a vote at the council. She's the Federation representative all of a sudden? Jesus gets a vote and the President of the UFP has to remain impartial? And why do non-members get a vote? Why didn't Book get a vote then as he was observing? Why didn't he just bring a bunch of people and stack the vote?
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I think that last episode was great.
It was refreshing to have an episode where Michael Burnham is the only person able to solve a problem.
And then on top of that, she throws in a moving/inspirational speech, something that is completely out of character for her, and this episode really was a breath of fresh air.
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