Cycling Thread 2

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by habernac

No, they're usually people with ear buds in. If you don't like being surprised, maybe pay more attention to your surroundings.

I've never understood people with headphones or ear bud while cycling or walking across roads. Just asking for trouble or getting killed. Nevermind people that drive with the same.

[Fuzz]

I'll keep that in mind if I ever get a ticket. Here's your dollar! Sorry, I only read up to the part that there was a fine. How was I supposed to know it is $400? Even our council didn't know that before they agreed to it!


I dunno, I find that excuse pretty weak. Someone came up with the number, and they should have presented it to council, as it is not a small increase.

[Flames0910]

I've never understood people with headphones or ear bud while cycling or walking across roads. Just asking for trouble or getting killed. Nevermind people that drive with the same.

I wear headphones for my daily commute but keep the volume low and purposely don't have a noise isolating model. Usually I'm listening to a podcast or the radio on my ride in, the same as many drivers.

Headphones block out less noise than the sound-dampening bodies of vehicles. Too lazy to google it, but they've done studies where they found drivers with the radio on could hear less outside noise than cyclists or runners with headphones in (and yet nobody would think to shame drivers for listening to the radio while driving into work).

[habernac]

Originally Posted by chemgear

I've never understood people with headphones or ear bud while cycling or walking across roads. Just asking for trouble or getting killed. Nevermind people that drive with the same.

I ride with them on my commute as well, volume isn't that high.

[Ryan Coke]

I understand the sentiment that riders should be aware and not wear earphones, and I know it can be a ‘thing’ sometimes, but I’m really not sure I agree with it. And I know I’m not asking to get killed.

I wear headphones in part because of wind noise and traffic noise. Earbuds dampen that, but I still hear vehicles coming up behind me.

Without the buds in I don’t think I hear vehicles sooner, since the wind noise is so much more prevalent, plus the overall noise level is bad for the ears. So I like to hear vehicles, and I still can, but I’m not a fan of overall hearing loss.

And as was said above, it’s not like I drive in my car with my windows down and the music off just so I can hear other traffic better.

[stone hands]

If I listen to music or a podcast I'll only throw 1 earbud in my right ear so I can clearly hear stuff coming behind me on my left

[GGG]

The consequence is higher for a cyclist than a car so even if the reduction in awareness is the same cyclists should be more conservative in their choices relative to drivers.

I think the motorcycle community has a similar debate over it.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by GGG

The consequence is higher for a cyclist than a car so even if the reduction in awareness is the same cyclists should be more conservative in their choices relative to drivers.

I think the motorcycle community has a similar debate over it.

Sure, that's fair but I think most bicyclists ARE generally more conservative in their choices relative to drivers. Each of the last three posters talked about moderating the volume and/or using a single ear bud, and all three seemed to be comfortable with taking responsibility for their decision. Besides, I have yet to see anyone biking down the river pathway at 100km/h with a Big Mac in one hand and their phone in the other, consequences be damned (or doing any kind of personal grooming, for that matter).

IMO the amount of victim blaming and safety shaming that happens in the cycling community (and from nearby motorists with their window rolled down at the stop sign) is borderline ridiculous.

[cracher]

My political givaFometer is pretty low, so forgive the ignorance. Looked up Druh Farrell who is apparently sympathetic to this. It turns out she is my representative. I'm pretty sure she lives near me cuz I see her around smiling frequently. So sending an email to her is still recommended despite the poor prognosis of getting the bylaw amended?

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by cracher

My political givaFometer is pretty low, so forgive the ignorance. Looked up Druh Farrell who is apparently sympathetic to this. It turns out she is my representative. I'm pretty sure she lives near me cuz I see her around smiling frequently. So sending an email to her is still recommended despite the poor prognosis of getting the bylaw amended?

Yes. Her office said she is considering asking that they be brought in line with vehicles so please do send an email!

[Mass_nerder]

On the commute home yesterday I came up behind a couple walking on the path, basically walking far enough apart that they took up 2/3 of the width. I rang my bell three times, once maybe 20' away, once 10' away, and once basically right behind them, but they didn't move over at all.
I squeezed by them fairly slowly, and was politely told that I should shove my bell up my ass.

Would they prefer I just surprised them?

[Northendzone]

i was a little verklempt riding into work this morning as today marks my last bike commute to this office as next week we are moving back downtown. my office has been near chinook for 9 years now and my commute is currently 17k on a mix of pathway and roads.

my commute downtown will be about 27k i reckon mostly on pathway, but I'd imagine i will ride on the road thru inglewoood and into downtown to hopefully aviod speed restrictions - my bike commuting will likely be limited tot eh summer months as i will likely be responsible for getting my daughter from school once that starts up again.

can't say i am overly excited to be back downtown - but it will be nice to have a new modern office, with nice furniture and what not - but everything else - blech.....

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

On the commute home yesterday I came up behind a couple walking on the path, basically walking far enough apart that they took up 2/3 of the width. I rang my bell three times, once maybe 20' away, once 10' away, and once basically right behind them, but they didn't move over at all.
I squeezed by them fairly slowly, and was politely told that I should shove my bell up my ass.

Would they prefer I just surprised them?

You did what I call the 3 ring procedure. If there's no response after that many, it's on them.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I squeezed by them fairly slowly, and was politely told that I should shove my bell up my ass.

Would they prefer I just surprised them?

Did you have a water bottle you could have squirted them with?

[Bigtime]

NYC's Beseiged Bike Lanes Needed A Hero. Instead, We Got Sean Avery


https://gothamist.com/2019/06/11/the...ero_instea.php

[Weitz]

Sean Avery is a beauty.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Sean Avery is an ####### and a d-bag, but frankly, sometimes that's the hero we need? Seriously, someone has to be an ####### to these people.

[Wormius]

Somebody needs to do a Lego diorama of Sean Avery's exploits.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

On the commute home yesterday I came up behind a couple walking on the path, basically walking far enough apart that they took up 2/3 of the width. I rang my bell three times, once maybe 20' away, once 10' away, and once basically right behind them, but they didn't move over at all.
I squeezed by them fairly slowly, and was politely told that I should shove my bell up my ass.

Would they prefer I just surprised them?

Every day I get more and more depressed with peoples behaviours.

[habernac]

I didn't wuss out today. Put on the rain gear and rode in. It doesn't matter how expensive the rain jacket is, they're all liars when they tell you they're "breathable".