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Old 05-14-2022, 02:52 PM   #1081
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/at-lea...-say-1.6453755

Shooting in Buffalo. Streamed to twitch. I really hate when this thread is bumped
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Old 05-14-2022, 04:22 PM   #1082
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18 year old moron with tactical gear and armed like a soldier, 13 shot with 10 dead so far. apparently racially motivated.

What a stupid country

Edit: the asshat live streamed the whole thing

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Old 05-14-2022, 05:28 PM   #1083
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This was domestic terrorism
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Old 05-14-2022, 05:38 PM   #1084
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it is vastly higher in the US, it is still unlikely but none the less vastly higher
The overwhelming majority of mass shootings* in the U.S. are gang-related. If you’re not involved in gangs or the drug trade, or live a neighbourhood where gang activity and the drug trade are concentrated, you’re left with the far less common random shooter scenarios. Which is higher in the U.S. than in Canada, sure. But still so rare that it’s totally irrational to let it deter you from travelling to the U.S.

The only reason those two very different types of incidents are lumped in together in stats is media sensationalism.

* The Gun Violence Archive defines a mass shooting as four or more people shot, not including the shooter. It does not distinguish between shooting in public or private spaces, or those that are related to gang violence or other criminal activities. The FBI uses a much narrower criteria (and one that confirms to what most people think of as a mass shooting) of three or more people shot dead in public through actions not related to terrorism, gang activity, or the commission of other crimes. Guess which definition media outlets like CNN use when they publish stats?
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Old 05-14-2022, 06:29 PM   #1085
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The overwhelming majority of mass shootings* in the U.S. are gang-related. If you’re not involved in gangs or the drug trade, or live a neighbourhood where gang activity and the drug trade are concentrated, you’re left with the far less common random shooter scenarios. Which is higher in the U.S. than in Canada, sure. But still so rare that it’s totally irrational to let it deter you from travelling to the U.S.

The only reason those two very different types of incidents are lumped in together in stats is media sensationalism.

* The Gun Violence Archive defines a mass shooting as four or more people shot, not including the shooter. It does not distinguish between shooting in public or private spaces, or those that are related to gang violence or other criminal activities. The FBI uses a much narrower criteria (and one that confirms to what most people think of as a mass shooting) of three or more people shot dead in public through actions not related to terrorism, gang activity, or the commission of other crimes. Guess which definition media outlets like CNN use when they publish stats?
The top 25 mass shootings in US history have nothing to do with gangs, it's all just about crazy people with the ability to get guns and extremely dangerous ones with ease.

When a person can shoot 600+ people in 9 minutes it's a gun problem.
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Old 05-14-2022, 06:30 PM   #1086
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You know covids over when mass shootings are back into full swing.
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Old 05-14-2022, 06:59 PM   #1087
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"White replacement theory" strikes again.

Just a reminder that the UCP had a handpicked candidate in Calgary who subscribed to the theory.
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Old 05-14-2022, 07:57 PM   #1088
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I read that police talked the shooter out of killing himself.

They shouldn’t have bothered.
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Old 05-14-2022, 08:06 PM   #1089
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I read that police talked the shooter out of killing himself.

They shouldn’t have bothered.
Yeah read that too, as soon as he took off the body armor they should have lite him up for the family's of the victims.
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Old 05-14-2022, 08:21 PM   #1090
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on the other hand if he didn't like black guys before he went to State Pen he's really not going to like them after a couple of goes in the shower
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Old 05-15-2022, 07:16 AM   #1091
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I read that police talked the shooter out of killing himself.

They shouldn’t have bothered.
This guys a monster. There's something to be said for facing justice and then serving a very long, hopefully life long, prison sentence. Death for these guys seems like an easy out.

My only worry is that he will try to use the court process to spread his filthy ideologies.
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We know the "thoughts and prayers" comment will be coming soon from a pro gun politician.
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Old 05-15-2022, 09:42 AM   #1093
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The US is past the point of the right and gun lovers needing to say things to diminish or distract from mass shootings when they happen. The country just moves past them in a matter of hours now, naturally.
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Old 05-15-2022, 10:57 AM   #1094
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This was domestic terrorism
Nope.

It's a white guy, so it's a hate crime.

Brown guy = terrorism

Thought we've been over this
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Old 05-15-2022, 12:02 PM   #1095
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I read that police talked the shooter out of killing himself.

They shouldn’t have bothered.
A white guy kills 10 people and the cops are calm enough to talk him down. A black guy doesn't even have to be carrying a gun to get shot by cops because they found him too threatening. What a ####ed up world
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Yeah read that too, as soon as he took off the body armor they should have lite him up for the family's of the victims.
Don't police already do enough extra judicial shootings?
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Old 05-16-2022, 06:23 AM   #1097
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Miraculously nobody was fatally shot but,

"21 people were injured in shootings in downtown Milwaukee"

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...cs/9775305002/
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/14/10989...ame-20-injured
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Old 05-16-2022, 07:18 AM   #1098
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the news story i saw yesterday indicated this guy in buffalo drove 300 miles to do this.

i am stunned that he gave himself up.
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Old 05-16-2022, 08:43 AM   #1099
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Racist white guy shooting up non-whites shooting up the list of reasons for these mass shootings.
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:56 AM   #1100
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We travel a lot and my wife has renewed her opinion that we not go to the U.S. unless we absolutely must, such as to board a cruise ship. She worries about some random attack where we happen to be.
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