04-24-2015, 08:48 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I have a friend who is an Oilers fan and he is still 100% convinced that Kevin Lowe is one of the most respected people in hockey. He was actually shocked that I thought otherwise.
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Has he ever called you his most respected friend? If so, I'd be worried. 
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04-24-2015, 08:49 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by MattyC
HAHAHA
"So Kevin, you were downright terrible at the job you were sort of qualified for. Here's a job that you're not even remotely qualified for!"
God. Just fire the guy.
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I think being in charge of Hot Dogs is a good fit for him.
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04-24-2015, 08:50 AM
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#43
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Someone post that Katz "I can't quit you" picture lol. What is wrong with the idiots up north? Soon they'll have more managers than they will have players.
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04-24-2015, 08:50 AM
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...
YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.
How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?
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04-24-2015, 08:51 AM
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#45
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I have a friend who is an Oilers fan and he is still 100% convinced that Kevin Lowe is one of the most respected people in hockey. He was actually shocked that I thought otherwise.
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I'm not sure 'respect' means what your friend thinks it means.
Good person - yes, by all accounts. Good hockey executive - well.......
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04-24-2015, 08:51 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...
YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.
How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?
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Are you saying Chiarelli is not a good manager?
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04-24-2015, 08:52 AM
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Likes Cartoons
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I guess we're going back to the era where Alberta will be the hardest place to get 2 points from. Both Calgary and Edmonton will probably have a franchise of elite stars for many years to come. Except we'll get there first. Edmonton still needs to address their entire blue line and goal
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04-24-2015, 08:52 AM
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#48
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I have a friend who is an Oilers fan and he is still 100% convinced that Kevin Lowe is one of the most respected people in hockey. He was actually shocked that I thought otherwise.
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Wow guy must have a comfortable rock to live under it for the past 9 years.
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04-24-2015, 08:55 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...
YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.
How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?
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Just like having the Guy who who did the Kessel trade isn't a win for Edmonton Oiler fans. One bad move doesn't define/take away all the good moves he's done.
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04-24-2015, 08:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Let's not give up just yet. Mactavish is still there to do stupid things.
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04-24-2015, 08:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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This is most vexing.
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04-24-2015, 08:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...
YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.
How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?
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Because, as bad as you seem to think Chiarelli is for trading Seguin (also essentially traded by our very own PHO), he is a massive upgrade on anything they've had in the last 15 years.
Just getting rid of Lowe is a loss for Flames fans. Adding an actual competent person is no good.
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04-24-2015, 09:00 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...
YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.
How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?
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Actually, the first Seguin trade was a win for Boston.
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04-24-2015, 09:00 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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On the plus side, I've always thought he looked like the bad guy from the chipmunks movies
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04-24-2015, 09:01 AM
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#55
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I think they should go with the following line up and replace any ?? positions with UFA or prospects
Hall - McDavid - Eberle
Draisaitl - RNH - Yakupov
Pouliot - Yakimov - ??
?? - ?? - ??
Klefbom - ??
Nurse - Schultz
?? - ??
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04-24-2015, 09:02 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...
YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.
How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?
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At the very least, it helps with optics. Chiarelli is a pretty big name, probably has a decent network already, and has recent success. Not every trade that a GM makes is going to be a win, but if you at least have built decent relationships around the league, you stand a better chance of not getting taken advantage of. Chiarelli likely has Lowe beat there.
I don't think it fixes everything quickly, but it's a start. Something they haven't had in years. I am actually really interested to see what he does. I expect some sort of rebuild right away and given that he has no attachment to any of the players, I think anyone is fair game.
I can't help but think McDavid's people had something to do with this.
"Hey look, you better show us that you are serious about turning that club around, or Connor isn't putting on that jersey on draft day...".
I also wonder still why Boston got rid of him so easily. I know Boston barely missed the playoffs, but I think with most GMs, the overall body of work would have bought him some goodwill.
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04-24-2015, 09:03 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Are you saying Chiarelli is not a good manager?
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He's handed out some questionable contracts, made some questionable trades, created a difficult cap situation for Boston and has generally seemed overly fascinated with guys like Shawn Thornton and Gregory Campbell at the expense of the guys he had who were actually, yknow, good at hockey.
Then there was the time he traded a likely perennial Hart candidate away for no particular reason.
I mean it's not like they hired Dave Nonis, but I don't think this is by any means a big win for Edmonton.
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04-24-2015, 09:05 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The sad part is that with Lowe no longer his boss I just dont see any way MacTavish keeps his job.
That guy is among the single most incompetent NHL executives of all time.
I mean, if you can be replaced by a monkey with a fax machine then perhaps you arent as qualified for your job as you might like to think...
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04-24-2015, 09:06 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Hopefully he gets fleeced selling some of the kids while their stock is all time low.
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04-24-2015, 09:06 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I dunno. Dubnyk out of Edmonton = good, in Edmonton = no good. Same for Cogliano (he was good for the Ducks), Perron (before and after Edmonton), Reider (well, he never got the chance to be no good), etc.
So Maybe Edmonton affects Chiarelli more than he does them.
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