09-14-2019, 02:33 PM
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#141
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3 Wolves Short of 2 Millionth Post
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Capitalism has us in a seriously messed up place. When profiting off others is the penultimate value then other more noble values are sacrificed. We can be better.
The world would be far better off if greed and selfishness were not some of our highest values. But they are at the base of our economic systems.
It’s time for the world to grow up. But how do we move there? Hard to say.
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There has literally never been a better time to be alive...
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09-14-2019, 02:43 PM
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#142
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Capitalism has us in a seriously messed up place. When profiting off others is the penultimate value then other more noble values are sacrificed. We can be better.
The world would be far better off if greed and selfishness were not some of our highest values. But they are at the base of our economic systems.
It’s time for the world to grow up. But how do we move there? Hard to say.
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Inherent Self-Interest has been one of humanity's hard-wired defining characteristics since the dawn of time.
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09-14-2019, 02:47 PM
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#143
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan
There has literally never been a better time to be alive...
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That’s not relevant to his post at all.
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Originally Posted by Locke
Inherent Self-Interest has been one of humanity's hard-wired defining characteristics since the dawn of time.
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And that’s why we have no communities or any semblance of society right?
Self interest will only get you so far.
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09-14-2019, 03:00 PM
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#144
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
That’s not relevant to his post at all.
And that’s why we have no communities or any semblance of society right?
Self interest will only get you so far.
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Yes....thats exactly why.
You know better than that.
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09-14-2019, 03:17 PM
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#145
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3 Wolves Short of 2 Millionth Post
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
That’s not relevant to his post at all.
And that’s why we have no communities or any semblance of society right?
Self interest will only get you so far.
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Haha what?
"Capitalism has us in a seriously messed up place."
"The world would be far better off if greed and selfishness were not some of our highest values."
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09-14-2019, 03:32 PM
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#146
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan
Haha what?
"Capitalism has us in a seriously messed up place."
"The world would be far better off if greed and selfishness were not some of our highest values."
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So what’s your point? Things are better now than in the past, so that means they are perfect??? No where to go from here! Settle in!
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09-14-2019, 04:04 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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If 5M barrels per day is shut in there's enough storage in OECD countries to make up that shortage for 550-600 days. Prices will climb significantly if there is that much shut in for more than a few weeks.
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09-14-2019, 04:11 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
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I'm not sure what to believe, I had read the Saudis said it was minor and wouldn't take long to fix, but that looks like a big fire. The also say 2 attacks, but the satellite shows at least 5 smoke spots. That, and the rebels say the attacks will continue.
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09-14-2019, 04:48 PM
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#149
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Prices will climb because its a good excuse to jack prices up. they don't need anything else.
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09-14-2019, 04:58 PM
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#150
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I filed up both vehicles today, just to be safe.
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09-15-2019, 09:05 AM
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#151
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https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov...T14%3A52%3A38Z
Looks like they have already managed to extinguish the main fire at Abqaiq. If you go back a day you can see it smoking, go back another and those other 4 fires don't exist. I'm still wondering how they say only 2 sites were hit. There are 5 fires!
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09-15-2019, 09:48 AM
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#152
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
I filed up both vehicles today, just to be safe.
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What do u save by doing this? A few dollars?
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09-15-2019, 09:55 AM
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#153
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
What do u save by doing this? A few dollars?
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I guess it depends what prices go up to. And I didn't make separate trips, I was out already, right next to a gas station, and filled up. My wife was out with her car and I told her to fill up as well. So no extra time/trips. It was about 70 litres total, so at 92.9 vs, I dunno, I could see it hitting 1.10 pretty easily next week, so $12 or so. Not nothin.
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09-15-2019, 12:08 PM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Gas stations raise their prices for lesser reasons.
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09-18-2019, 11:08 AM
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#155
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1173924143135375361
If they were cruise missiles and not drones, I'm not sure how it makes sense that these would be launched from Yemen and end up impacting the NW side(note this image north is to the left). It also means if they were launched from Iran, it would be an odd trajectory. The video (posted in the twitter thread) also shows them flying over Kuwait. What is NW of there? Iraq, and Syria farther away. And Saudi. This all looks kinda fishy, no?
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09-18-2019, 11:11 AM
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#156
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
https://twitter.com/user/status/1173924143135375361
If they were cruise missiles and not drones, I'm not sure how it makes sense that these would be launched from Yemen and end up impacting the NW side(note this image north is to the left). It also means if they were launched from Iran, it would be an odd trajectory. The video (posted in the twitter thread) also shows them flying over Kuwait. What is NW of there? Iraq, and Syria farther away. And Saudi. This all looks kinda fishy, no?
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Cruise missiles can turn.
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09-18-2019, 11:16 AM
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#157
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
https://twitter.com/user/status/1173924143135375361
If they were cruise missiles and not drones, I'm not sure how it makes sense that these would be launched from Yemen and end up impacting the NW side(note this image north is to the left). It also means if they were launched from Iran, it would be an odd trajectory. The video (posted in the twitter thread) also shows them flying over Kuwait. What is NW of there? Iraq, and Syria farther away. And Saudi. This all looks kinda fishy, no?
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Cruise Missiles are smart weapons not ballistic dumb weapons. You program in way points and the target and then fire it.
The new generation cruise missiles are considered brilliant weapons in that they self navigate using GPS. I can fire a weapon towards Edmonton and have it navigate towards Dallas.
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09-18-2019, 11:20 AM
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#158
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Right, but Iran probably isn't using the most advanced types. Why would they approach from over Kuwait? The shortest distance is about 350km from Iran. This route would be over double that.
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09-18-2019, 11:23 AM
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#159
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Right, but Iran probably isn't using the most advanced types. Why would they approach from over Kuwait? The shortest distance is about 350km from Iran. This route would be over double that.
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For the obvious reason, in that its pretty easy to track a missile from a direct course firing it straight from Iran practically screams we did it.
At least taking the longer course that turns guarantees some initial confusion.
The question you and everyone should be asking is what did American satellite surveillance see? I'm assuming that they have blanketed that whole region with sat coverage.
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09-18-2019, 02:20 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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If you think or know it will be tracked, which any country would, then you wouldn't fire it from inside your own country, you'd fire it from Iraq, or Yemen or somewhere off the Saudi coast from a boat, or a few miles inland after smuggling it all off a boat into the Saudi desert.
The only reason you would fire a missile that would be almost certainly tracked from inside Iran is if you are trying to start a war between Iran and the US as you work for the Saudi secret service, maybe because you were worried by the sacking of John Bolton that the US weren't going to go to war with Iran after all and needed a bit of a kick in the pants to get things going.
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