[Signing] Flames sign William Stromgren to 3 year ELC

[PepsiFree]

It’s more baffling that people are criticizing the signing because they’re writing off a 19 year old prospect that plays in a league none of them watch.

[Cheese]

Everyone was saying the same about Duehr. Lets wait and let him acclimate before suggesting anything other than...welcome and good luck!

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It’s more baffling that people are criticizing the signing because they’re writing off a 19 year old prospect that plays in a league none of them watch.

CP is full of HockeyDB scouts. This guy sucks! Look at his stats on HockeyDB. Oh Wow! We didn't draft this other guy? Look at his stats on HockeyDB.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I really like this kid, going back to seeing him play in the U-18's. Very good skater with size, and a nice 200-ft game. He was drafted in 2021, but he's still only 19 years old!

This year, in the top men's league in Sweden, he put up 8 points in 45 games for a team (Brynas) that finished in the bottom-2, and was just relegated. Sounds paltry, but that's 7th for U-20 players, 20th in pts/gp. His ice-time was all over the place, from 7:07, up to 17:29.

In his draft year, he was with the MODO organization, and put up 18 pts in 14 games (3rd in the J20 League for draft-eligibles, ahead of guys like Rosen, Dower-Nilsson, Ostlund, Lysell, and Forsell), and even had time in the Hockeyettan (Sweden's ECHL, with 12 pts in 11 games, where he was 3rd for draft-eligibles, 1st in pts/gp). Since his draft year, he's been with Rogle (J20 mostly) ,and Brynas (mostly SHL).

Good post. When I saw they signed him, i immediately thought he might have struggled, but they still believe in what they saw at the draft and wanted to get him over here/away from there to develop him.

[Naitix]

From the highlights I’ve see of his in the SHL, he’s got some speed and good hands + shot. He’s only 19!! I would not be surprised if he does quite well in the AHL next year

[DJones]

Originally Posted by devo22

I don't get why some people are already writing him off. His SHL stats don't mean a whole lot, as the Swedish league rarely gives young players a ton of quality ice time to work with unless you're a real bluechip prospect. Having already played 51 SHL games in his career at 19 years old is a good thing ... giving up on him because he didn't score more in a very limited role makes zero sense. Let's see how the kid adapts to the North American game.

People like to see prospects dominate kids their own age. Not see them struggle playing against professionals.

[Flamesfan05]

I was looking for him at the WJ and he did nothing

Yeah want to see more with the Wranglers but at this point, I am not expecting much.

[TheIronMaiden]

The SHL is a man's league. The Caliber of Hockey is better than the AHL, it is widely regarded as the 3rd best league in the world. Getting 45 Games at 19 is not a small achievement.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Some people in here actually don't like this signing? Lol. He's 19, seems like he has good tools based on the scouting reports and people in this thread who've been following him. I'd rather sign our draft picks and work on developing them than wasting contracts on over the hill veterans that won't contribute much to the team

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

He was used in a pretty limited role in the WJC for Sweden but I thought he looked decently effective in the icetime he did get. A lot is riding on the development side of the organization now to bring him along.

Good luck to him and welcome to Calgary!

I'm glad he's over here where he can play a substantial role on the Wranglers this season and next. Hopefully his production is more a case of not getting the minutes in Sweden.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Some people in here actually don't like this signing? Lol. He's 19, seems like he has good tools based on the scouting reports and people in this thread who've been following him. I'd rather sign our draft picks and work on developing them than wasting contracts on over the hill veterans that won't contribute much to the team

I don’t think anyone hates the signing

Some people just don’t expect much based on what he has done so far.

Maybe he’ll surprise us. Nobody expected much from Durher and he is doing great.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

The SHL is a man's league. The Caliber of Hockey is better than the AHL, it is widely regarded as the 3rd best league in the world. Getting 45 Games at 19 is not a small achievement.

I always thought the AHL was the 2nd best league in the world, with SHL, KHL, Liiga fighting for third.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I was looking for him at the WJ and he did nothing

Yeah want to see more with the Wranglers but at this point, I am not expecting much.

Nor should you on pretty much any pick out of the top 15.

2nd round picks average about 1 of every 3 that ends up in the NHL, and much lower if you expect an impact NHLer.

Have never understood the need to post the negative side of any equation we all understand.

[FlamesAddiction]

Some sources had Stromgren going as high as the 1st round in 2021. I am glad the Flames are taking over his development at this point because I am sure the raw skill hasn't just disappeared.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Some sources had Stromgren going as high as the 1st round in 2021. I am glad the Flames are taking over his development at this point because I am sure the raw skill hasn't just disappeared.

It's not like the Wranglers are a successful AHL organization.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It’s more baffling that people are criticizing the signing because they’re writing off a 19 year old prospect that plays in a league none of them watch.

I've been baffled by a baffling number of people's baffling opinions for baffling reasons, I'm no longer baffled.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I always thought the AHL was the 2nd best league in the world, with SHL, KHL, Liiga fighting for third.

There could probably be a healthy debate that the AHL is better than the SHL, the only real head to head comparison is at the Spangler Cup. The last time was 2013. The Rochester Americans never won a game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHL_pa...e_Spengler_Cup


A part of the Reason I argue the SHL is better is because they have a relegation system. It is always the best 14 teams in Sweeden. The AHL is a far less saturated league. Maybe the best teams *the wranglers* could win a super series, but if the worst teams faced off it would always go to the SHL team.


If I had to rank them it would be

1 NHL
2 KHL ( although it is a less talented league since the war in Ukraine)
3 SHL
4 AHL
5 Liiga
6 Swiss A league
7 DEL
8 Extraliga
9 NCAA
10 CHL

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Nor should you on pretty much any pick out of the top 15.

2nd round picks average about 1 of every 3 that ends up in the NHL, and much lower if you expect an impact NHLer.

Have never understood the need to post the negative side of any equation we all understand.

So you are negative, you just don’t post it

Got it…lol

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Nor should you on pretty much any pick out of the top 15.

2nd round picks average about 1 of every 3 that ends up in the NHL, and much lower if you expect an impact NHLer.

Have never understood the need to post the negative side of any equation we all understand.

Dube was a later 2nd rounder and he blossomed at the WJC

That’s how people noticed he may be an NHLer

So it’s not always a given

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

So you are negative, you just don’t post it

Got it…lol

Not what I said at all.

2nd round picks are no guarantee, we all know that.

Happy to have a prospect in the fold and see where it goes.

Pointing out you're not hopeful is just posting negativity for the sake of negativity in my mind.