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Old 11-08-2019, 11:36 AM   #3221
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I would be really curious to know what the financial difference for OSEG between the leagues would be. I can't imagine that Fury were going to lose heaps of revenue based on the switch.
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:53 AM   #3222
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Shermanator may know better, but there's been a lot of talk that the CPL wouldn't waive the expansion fee for Ottawa. And since they are seemingly asking $9 million right now, that's a healthy chunk of change.
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:58 AM   #3223
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Shermanator may know better, but there's been a lot of talk that the CPL wouldn't waive the expansion fee for Ottawa. And since they are seemingly asking $9 million right now, that's a healthy chunk of change.
$9 Million sounds a lot like money a team will never get back. I would love to find out what the state of team finances are.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:01 PM   #3224
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It really sounds like a fight between two really sleazy and egotistical sides.

If what the Fury are saying is true, CSA was underhanded and devious to them. Of course, pretending that CanPL is anything less than USL's equal is hubris as well (unless they neuter the league with too many U23 Canadian rules to make it PDL +).

Not surprising, Canada Soccer really is filled with self interested, arrogant and ignorant people. We're very fortunate that we have an ownership group like the Southern family and that they are willing to do business with these people.
The CSA has absolutely nothing to do with this decision. They actually granted sanctioning for the Fury for 2020. Sanctioning by both US Soccer and CONCACAF was delayed.

https://twitter.com/AJonSports/statu...619472896?s=19

I know people here hate the CSA (to an almost irrational level) but facts are also important.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:06 PM   #3225
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The bottom line is this is sad news. Canadian soccer, and the CPL would be better off with the Fury around. It is a team that has lasted 6 years, and had a strong fan base.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:09 PM   #3226
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At the same time, the 'hostage' comment included a statement that they expect to be in the CPL - probably in 2021. They are evidently just going to try and pressure some concessions from the league.

Ideally, the CSA sits everyone down and they figure out how to get Ottawa into the league for next year.

Interestingly, Ottawa's baseball team was also just pushed out of its league following a merger. Though that team has also had financial difficulties. Ottawa is having a very bad sports year.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:17 PM   #3227
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:26 PM   #3228
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At 25 you'd have to think that Zator's future is still bright.
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The CSA has absolutely nothing to do with this decision. They actually granted sanctioning for the Fury for 2020. Sanctioning by both US Soccer and CONCACAF was delayed.

https://twitter.com/AJonSports/statu...619472896?s=19

I know people here hate the CSA (to an almost irrational level) but facts are also important.
If sanctioning by US Soccer and CONCACAF was delayed because CSA sat on their documentation for several months as alleged, that is absolutely on them.
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Old 11-08-2019, 02:46 PM   #3230
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OSEG are simply walking away from a money sink in the Fury. Both the Redblacks and the 67s are profitable, and yet OSEG lose millions a year.

They are using the sanctioning argument as a convenient way for them to save face with their supporters. Blame everyone else for their poor decisions and take no responsibility.

CPL supporters groups see right through that argument and rightly so. From what we've heard (second hand) the league offered them significant concessions including no expansion fee and the ability to go over the salary cap for the first year so they didnt have to scramble. But they wanted no part of CPL. So CPL played hardball on the expansion fee for this year and Fury folded.

Not much lost IMO.
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Old 11-08-2019, 03:00 PM   #3231
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What's sad about the whole situation is the Fury did amazing things in their first 2 years. They got big crowds, made the NASL finals and looked like they would be the next Whitecaps or Impact.

But then OSEG looked at the balance sheet and panicked.

They gutted their squad (despite the players publicly begging ownership to keep it together), dropped their academy, moved to USL (paying another expansion fee) as a cost cutting measure and then continued to cut until they had gutted their fanbase and squad to bare bones.

CPL will be back in Ottawa in time and it will be done right the next time around.
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With Cavalry FC's first year in the books, call it a success

https://calgarysun.com/sports/soccer...l-it-a-success

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Ownership also wants to provide better customer amenities at the stadium, such as concessions and places for fans to get warm at halftime.

Then there’s a desire down the road to improve the game-day experience.

“We want the north end to emulate the south end and get a little noise in here,” Allison said.
I wonder what they're planning to do to make this happen? Permanent seating? Permitted smoke bombs and fist fights with opposing fans?
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Interesting that they want to double the number of season ticket holders. They cited 2000 as the number last year. 4000 seems a little ambitious to me, that said, I expect the attendance to grow from last year indefinitely.

Also, on that note, I noticed that the back door to buying seasons tickets has closed.
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Old 11-08-2019, 04:37 PM   #3234
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If sanctioning by US Soccer and CONCACAF was delayed because CSA sat on their documentation for several months as alleged, that is absolutely on them.
And I thought from the articles back at the time, that Concacaf expected the CSA to sort it all out as it was a Canadian only matter, and when they stayed deliberately silent, Concacaf had no choice but to step in and sort it out last minute. Sounds like they've stepped in again and reminded Fury about what they want, and that's a Canadian pro team, to play in a Canadian pro league and the USL probably could care less either way.

CSA (though they had to do it quietly, given the CPL and backlash it would get for going against the good of the game in Canada) lost/got out politicked to Concacaf, is what that read like, so Pugh is taking his Fury and their ball and going home.

It really is rich to hear a CSA board member lament "politics" as the reason he didn't get his way for his team. No desire for the supposed mandate of the organization he works for and collects a cheque for, in growing Canadian soccer, it's all about his interests. Politics makes that organization go round and 90% of its day to day happenings are strictly to do with handing and dealing with internal political battles.

His sob story riccochet about the big bad CPL giving him a ransom note is about as hollow as Forge's Microwaveable Plate Championship.

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Old 11-08-2019, 05:10 PM   #3235
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I wonder what they're planning to do to make this happen? Permanent seating? Permitted smoke bombs and fist fights with opposing fans?
I think you're misinterpreting the quote. I'm in the North end, so it'll take some work to get the south stand up to that standard!
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I wonder what they're planning to do to make this happen? Permanent seating? Permitted smoke bombs and fist fights with opposing fans?
Unpopular opinion: Drunken European ultras only. Smoke bombs are mandatory
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If sanctioning by US Soccer and CONCACAF was delayed because CSA sat on their documentation for several months as alleged, that is absolutely on them.
The CSA provided Fury with their 2020 sanctioning on May 17.

https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-...2487-preview-1
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:34 PM   #3238
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I can't imagine the CPL expansion fee is actually $9 million is it? Or was that the special 10x more than everyone else deal just for Ottawa?
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:32 AM   #3239
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I feel dirty quoting Kurt Larson but...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1193180403349241856
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:44 PM   #3240
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I can't imagine the CPL expansion fee is actually $9 million is it? Or was that the special 10x more than everyone else deal just for Ottawa?
It can't be. That'd destroy most teams before even started.
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